MNC Business E Buzz with Mr. Mathieu Lefevre

Business viewers' urban issues are increasingly prominent on national policy agendas. Cities and metropolitan areas are major contributors to national economies and for sure play a key role as known as in global markets. Moreover, at a time of deepening globalization and increasing international competition for investment, metropolitan regions have become the targets of a wide range of public interventions. Now,

urban

development policies seek to address a range of issues from managing urban expansion and congestion to fostering competitiveness, innovation, social inclusion, and environmental sustainability. This is MNC Business and you are on economic bus. Urban development issues should be understood not only in recognizable everyday problems such as traffic congestion, slums, and crime, but also needs to be viewed within the broader context. Cities play an important role in the national economy as more than half of the national GDP is generated from the major cities.

There are some issues of urban development in which the central as well as local government as well as other stakeholders have to address. We have the report for you.

Urban

areas in Indonesia had a typical problem such as urbanization, environmental, and social. Various urban problems were arising from the spatial planning of cities that were not clear and also inconsistency of policy makers in implementing development plans. Generally, the executives and legislators are still thinking conventionally and have no development concepts which are firm and clear. It is also observed that many regional heads did not familiar with the concept of urban development which was sustainable or a development that was environmentally insightful.

There

are two major things to respond to city development problems, planning, and constructing. However, the problems could also come from local government's own policy which did deviation on city spatial planning. Local regulations that were published on city spatial planning sometimes could just be a formality concept because local governments sometimes are not consistent in implementing development plans. Besides, there were also in-effectiveness and in-coordination among agencies and institutions.

The

other problem is the integration between cities and districts like gap-reaching issues. The ideal step of a balanced city gave progress and did not weaken the adjacent regions.

To

create a comfortable city, structuring the city must be planned carefully. The situation sometimes already had a special plan but the implementation is not in accordance with government regulations. Therefore, there could be violations that have been done and being ignored.

For

example, mall construction which is not in accordance with the special plan in district or city. Apparently, when people opposed against the construction but it kept running without any sanction.

The

other main issue is government lack of ability to anticipate the problems in the future. The Indonesian government is still considered incapable of cutting out good planning. Sometimes, regulation is less able to overcome the problems in the future that its development runs so fast.

So,

violation on special plan cannot be avoided. What should be prepared in creating a good ideal special plan related to urban development issue? MNC Business Report for Economic Best at NCF Business Channel.

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to have a deeper view about understanding urban development challenges with New Cities Foundation, or NCF, we have Mathieu Lefebvre, Executive Director at New Cities Foundation. Mathieu, bonjour. Bonjour.

Merci beaucoup

for your time. Thank you very much.

Merci beaucoup. I

really appreciate it for your time. And this is the first time we have NCF, stands for

New

Cities Foundation. We should talk about this in more detail later on. In the meantime, they can also visit your homepage. Which homepage should I visit if I would like to know more about NCF?

NewcitiesFoundation.org

Okay, as simple as it sounds, dot org. Well, Mathieu, I would like to ask you first your general perspective. By the time you talk about the dream of the urban population in terms of having, living, and creating a comfortable city. How would you define actually the word comfortable city?

That's a very interesting question.

I

think the aspirations of people who live in cities are very important and they're very common. What's very interesting is that people in small cities and in big cities across the world, in rich cities and in poor cities, they really focus on the same kinds of issues. They want fairly basic things. Housing is always one. Security is very important. Mobility and traffic is a big issue here in your hometown in Jakarta, but also everywhere. So it's very interesting to think that people, when they think about their life in cities, and as you know and will discuss, more and more people are living in cities, they aspire to the same things.

How livable, actually, on the global scale, by the time we talk about the urban development, major cities around the world, how livable it can provide the convenience and also the comfort zone for the urban population around the world? What dramatic change is happening now?

Well, we're living in a very exciting time. That's why I'm very happy to be here in Jakarta to have this conversation on the future of cities because we think very deeply at the New Cities Foundation that

thinking

about cities and creating better cities is really the challenge of our time.

We

think that we live in a century of cities. By the middle of this century, the urban population of the world will have grown by about 2 billion people. It's growing at a rate of about 2 people per second. So by the time I finish my sentence, there will be

10

or 12 new urban

people. Another increase in

growth.

Exactly,

exactly. So this is the challenge of our times. Cities are where the action is happening. And I think we are not driving this train. This train is unstoppable, the train of urbanization in this century. And if you look around in cities in Asia and particularly here in Indonesia, it's evident.

But

there are two directions this train can go in. A very happy direction to create green, livable, equitable, happy cities. Or a much less happy direction of traffic congestion and inequality and smog, etc.

When

you use the word unstoppable, can we expect somehow to make this kind of flow of the urban population becoming controllable? How controllable can it be by the time you talk about the flowing, the growing and the increasing number of the urban population coming in and keep flowing in the major cities?

Well,

I think

people

have dreams and aspirations. And I think they should be allowed to exercise those dreams and to make those dreams come true. So I am personally not a big believer in controlling population movement. You're

not

suggesting that at the same time?

Yes, no. To control this? But what we want to do is to provide this urban dream to make it a reality so that people get to cities that

conform

to their dream and

aspiration.

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This

is an economic update news first for you. Business viewers, Ministry of Transportation asserted some connectivity aspects could be improved by the development of railway outside Java, as in the government's five years program on infrastructure.

It

is expected that the development would create synergy among transportation modes and eventually suppress logistics costs.

Ministry

of Transportation will soon start the development of railways outside Java

as

part of government's five years program on infrastructure.

By

improving infrastructure in train transportation, it is believed that it could create synergy among other transportation modes and finally suppress the logistics costs, which is considered to be too high. Director General of Railways in the Ministry of Transportation, Hermanto Duyat Moko, explained

that

there will be some developments done in some different areas in the country.

For

example, there will be 13 airports and 20 seaports in the country with train access. Hermanto also added that aside from increasing denial,

number

of airports and 20 seaports with train access, government is also planning to increase the number of city having train as its mass transportation.

Based

on the data, there are seven of metropolitan cities in

2014

which have train as mass transportation.

Then

it is targeted that in 2019, the number would increase by two times into 14 cities. Jakarta, Riki Anuardi, MNC Business.

We

would like to greet you business people in Singapore. You're an economic bus, a single stock show program that outlook the economic and social issue for your business plan. We are still discussing about the understanding urban development challenges with New Cities Foundation or NCF. We have Mathieu Lefevreau as the Executive Director at New Cities Foundation. And as we speak, you can also log on and go visit the page at newcitiesfoundation.org to get further info. I'm so excited in terms of promoting about NCF as well as the detailed info you have there in your homepage because you choose Jakarta.

I

mean, NCF choose Jakarta as the venue, as the host for the summit this shortcoming June, if I'm mistaken.

That's right, yeah. June or July? June

2015. Okay, we should talk about that in a later on session. Okay, further to our conversation early on, Jakarta, it is pretty obvious that we are not the only one who suffers the most in terms of creating a livable town, a comfortable zone for the urban population. Anyway,

when

we try to find the basic general thing,

what

typical problem commonly faced by the urban areas related to this kind of spatial issue? Is it always about spatial issue all the time?

Well,

I think a large part of it is about spatial issue, but it's not just about spatial issue. And I hope we can talk about problems related to finance and governance. But I like to think, I'm an optimist by nature, so I like to think that these challenges that cities face, including Jakarta, are also great opportunities. For example, for your viewers in the business community, I think this represents an unprecedented business opportunity because to create better solutions to answer people's problems in cities. And people's problems, as I was relating to earlier, are fairly common. Traffic, and your report about trains and transportation is very important.

Traffic, housing, water, insecurity, participation, feeling that you belong, culture. All of these are common issues. There are also opportunities, for example, for the private sector to step in.

Just now we have also a short package talking about interconnectivity and infrastructure. Now, on your idea, Matthew, the other common problem related to this kind of interconnectivity and infrastructure, we talk about the urban development, is the integration between cities and the districts around the main cities that is not established yet. We talk about this kind of major gap. On your own experience in NCF and going around the world, what it takes to bridge this kind of gap? By the time you would like to build good cities and the, what do you call this, Iran sub-district will be benefited also.

Right, yeah. Well, if you look at a picture of urbanization today, really more than cities, we're talking about urban corridors. Urban corridors. Yeah. And so if you think about the case of Shanghai, it's not really Shanghai anymore. It's this massive urban region which has tens of millions of people called the Pearl River Delta, which is really

the

unit to think about it. And I think Java, for example, has the opportunity in the next 10, 20 years to become a very productive, world-leading urban corridor where all of the different urban centers are linked.

This

will also, I think, help

release

some of the pressure that's felt in Jakarta right now. So, and all of this really talks about the issue of governance. And that's a critically important issue, how these urban corridors are governed. Because, you know, your viewers are in the business sector and they will know the importance to have a strong business sector.

I

think there's a very important element is to have a strong public sector that can direct

and

sort of accompany progress and development.

Do you see that in our current new government? If I may ask you this, I'm so tickled in terms of asking you this, the strong, what do you call this, a political will as well as the support in terms of creating those?

I'm really not an authority. I don't know the

government here. The policy they

made, the regulation they made here. On the regulatory aspect of framework, how do you see? No, I would like to bring Indonesia in our discussion.

Sure. Well, again, I'm really not an authority on Indonesia, so I'm not credible to judge. But what I can detect is that there is a momentum.

There

is a moment, which is also why we picked seizing the urban moment as the topic

for

our summit. There is a great sense of opportunity here around the question of urban areas. And, of course, government is never a stranger to creating that

moment

of opportunity. So I think

there

is something happening here, and it's very interesting. And increasingly in Europe, in North America, and elsewhere in Asia, Jakarta and Indonesia are catching the attention of people. They are intrigued by what's happening here. What

is so unique when you talk about the characteristics of Jakarta as the major city, especially as the capital city of a nation, on your view? How

do you see

Jakarta, actually?

Yeah, I think certainly Jakarta is not without its challenges. But I think there's a tremendous enthusiasm here that you can feel. People are, at the very basic level, very hopeful about the future. The business community is very hopeful. The investment community is very hopeful. That, in today's world, if you look outside of Indonesia, is fairly rare, that optimism. That's also why we were very excited to pick Jakarta as the destination for our next big event here in Jakarta in June.

Matthew,

I

know it's becoming the current trending trend. Every single media also making the headline when we talk about go green, business, green environment-friendly business, and so forth. Now, the uncontrolled rapid urban development could affect not only, as we know, social problems, but also the environment. How challenging is it, on the view of NCF, by the time we talk about creating a green city concept, how green can we be, regarding our city concept?

Well,

again, I'm an optimist, and a realist as well. The environmental problems that we face are global. And

even

though it's heads of nations who go discuss environmental problems in big summits, in my hometown in Paris, we will have the climate negotiations in December,

I

strongly believe that it's cities who will do. They will not talk, they will do. It's in cities that you can actually create these green cities. Most CO2 emissions, greenhouse gas emissions, come from cities indirectly. So it's in cities that we will have to solve

the

problem. So creating green cities is not really a luxury or a fantasy. It's

an

obligation. We have to.

So we must make it as a mandatory step to

get by

everyone of us here as a part of the nation. Well, we are going to talk in more detail about what is actually this summit and why is it so important, especially giving the context of Indonesia. After this one, Matthew. One of the discussions about understanding urban development challenges with New Cities Foundation, or NCF, will be brought to you soon. Steve with us on Econic Bus, this is MNC Business Channel and Startup Asia Channel Singapore. Stay tuned for more business insights on MNC Business.

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have corporate news for you. Business viewers, MNC Group that is currently working on the development of Chiawi-Sukabumi Highway stated that when the highway is operating, it will help on making logistic costs in West Java area much lower.

This

will also attract more investment and business expansion.

The

development of Chiawi-Sukabumi Highway, currently under process, was believed to bring a very positive contribution on the business and economic activity.

This

will help on making the goods distribution easier, as well as making the logistic costs lesser. Director of PT MNC Toll Investama, Shefriel Nasution, pointed out that minimum number of highway in Indonesia, and also road network in general, is one of the reasons behind many problems faced by logistic sector.

We

know that with this road, this road

will

be faster to the mobilization, certainly for the air transportation, so

that the

production of trees or trees that are there will be faster to the city,

especially

to Jakarta. The second road, the economic development of

the economy

will make people interested in investing.

Shefriel also reminded government to remain consistent with the commitment of accelerating infrastructure development in the country. More support on land acquisition, for example, is one of the most crucial factors to help highway development progressing better.

As

it has been known, government showed its commitment on better infrastructure development this year through bigger allocation for this post in the state budget. The total budget in 2015 revised state budget was 290.3 trillion rupiah,

higher

than 177.9 trillion rupiah last year.

There

was also a significant increase compared to 2013,

where

the budget was only 155.9 trillion, and also 2012, when it was only 145.5 trillion. Jakarta, Ayos Carlos, and Olena Wibizana, MNC Business.

Back

on Economic Bus, this program can also be viewed through StarHub, Asia Channel One-to-One, and MNC International, both channels can be viewed in Singapore. With me, Erwin Suryabata, this is Matthew Lefebvre, Executive Director at New Cities Foundation, or NCF Go. Log on to the homepage at newcitiesfoundation.org, and we are going to talk more about this. If I may rephrase my question, Matthew, perhaps some of them just joined our talk show this evening. Specific challenges faced by Indonesia as a nation. Geographically speaking, it won't be very easy in terms of creating this kind of interconnectivity. And at the same time,

we

talk that the main support factor is to have this kind of strong interconnectivity, so everyone not going to go overflowing onto one spot in the nation.

Yeah, absolutely. I think one of the specific challenges and also opportunities that Indonesia faces in its urban development is its geography, of course, which is so unique for a country with,

I

think, 17,000 islands and cities that are far removed. I think air traffic and air hubs are going to develop a lot. Your report earlier talked about 30 new airports being built, etc., but also all the infrastructure investments that will be made in the future to really empower Indonesian cities to grow. Financing and urban financing is something that we look at at the New Cities Foundation. We've just launched an initiative called Urban Finance Initiative, which looks at this challenge which is faced by all cities, which is how are we going to pay for all the infrastructure investments that we need. What financial mechanisms will we use? Where will we get the funds?

How will risks be measured, etc.? And I think this really applies to Indonesian cities very well. How

costly can it be by the time we talk about realizing the ideal city concept? It must cost us a lot of fortune by the time we talk about the finding, the financing scheme and mechanism as well.

Sure. I think put together, this investment in the world cities will amount to the largest infrastructure investment in our history, in mankind's history. But it's an investment. It's not a cost. It's an investment in making our cities cleaner, more livable, more... So it should be for the

longer-term purpose.

Exactly.

Yes, yes. Because otherwise, you have cities that are congested, that have slums, etc. So

these

investments, empowered by technology, which is also something that's new on the scene, this smart city concept, these investments are really for our future.

At the same time, since we are on business, we talk about business as well, with the positive,

what

do you call this, positive purpose, positive aspect in asking you this question, can we generate something out of it by the time you talk about investing in the urban development?

Absolutely. I think it's an enormous opportunity for business, for example.

So not only

benefiting the society, but also actually from the business aspect.

Oh, absolutely. It will be very

attractive. Absolutely. And what's really interesting is also one of our goals in promoting this global event here in Jakarta about the future of cities is that cities and businesses learn from one another. If you think about the busway or the BRT here in Jakarta, that was imported from South America. If you think about the shared bike system, which is so common in many cities across Asia and the world, that was imported from France. Cities are copying, and businesses in cities are copying one another because they know that something that works in one city is very likely to work in another city. So it's an exciting time of opportunity.

Speaking of adopting the success story from other places, another ton here in the world, can you mention one or two, three countries where we can actually look up as the role model?

I

think there's two things. One, every city is unique, and so you have to listen to your inhabitants and really understand what they want and what their expectations are. But, of course, you have to look around, and looking around and listening to best-case studies is what we're trying to do with the New Cities Summit in June.

I

think it's wiser probably to look at cities that have similar geographies so that they're by the sea. For example, Jakarta suffers from great problems with floods. So there are other case studies in the Netherlands and elsewhere where Jakarta can learn. Also, traffic congestion is not unique to Indonesian cities. Cities in China, in Thailand, and elsewhere, and in Brazil. I'm very struck, for example, when I walk around Jakarta at how much it looks like Sao Paulo in Brazil.

All right. So similar strategic approach can be implemented or can be applied by the time we are looking at the other countries, but we have similarity with Jakarta and Indonesia in general. Another session to discuss more about

this. Make

sure you actually with us on Economic Buzz, we are going to discuss more about national, I mean, New Cities Foundation with Matteo Lefevre.

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Another

business news for you. Business viewers following the rising middle power in the country, the demand for property in middle upper level is reported to increase. Conversely, decreasing demand is seen in some areas with mining business dependency for living, such as in Kalimantan.

Continuous decrease of mining-based exportation, such as coal in global market, is reported to be impacting the performance of property sector in Indonesia this year.

Even

though the data showed that there is indeed an increased demand towards property, following the rapid increase of middle-income people in the country. However, the demand in middle upper level is reported to be decreasing. Entrepreneur in property sector, Sahad Pasaribu stated, based on the data, decreasing demand towards property, occurred in some areas in the country with mining business for livelihood, such as in Kalimantan.

The

decreasing demand towards property is indeed has been predicted by some industry players in domestic.

It

is indicated that the decreasing demand is pretty much caused by some policy implemented by the government, such as policy on fuel price and electricity tariff increase. Business players of the industry stated that as the impact of the policy, it leads into higher cost production that it is eventually burdening the society.

The

Ministry of Finance will be focusing on property sector to optimize tax revenue this year. By far, there have been many property transactions that are not being monitored. So the Ministry believes the tax on the property sector could help the government to achieve tax revenue target.

Ministry

of Finance asks property industry players to get discipline in paying the tax and reporting property transaction to the authority.

The

Ministry indicates that there are still a lot of business players in the sector which are not disciplined regarding this responsibility.

As

it has been known, property sector is reported to be growing quite significantly.

It

is even reported that apartment price has become quite high these days, and however, there is no significant contribution from the sector towards national tax revenue. Previously, government is setting tax revenue

target in

2015 to be 1,200 trillion rupiah.

This

will be quite a task for the government to achieve the target, as it was reported that tax revenue target in the previous years have never been achieved.

In

order to realize the target, government will be optimizing the potential existing, such as by applying value-added tax on highway, which currently is becoming quite an issue in the country, as there are pro and contra regarding the policy implementation. Jakarta, Raja Patmo for MNC Business.

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are sleeping with us on Economic Bus. We still bring our discussion about understanding urban development challenges with New Cities Foundation, or NCF. Matthew, early on we talked about how we can ask for the government support through their policies, because as the regulator, they are the one who can create an ideal policy that can support this kind of urban development, and we can tackle this kind of urban development challenges as well. We are also working close as our partner with Transformasi, Public Policy Transformation, the Center for Public Policy Transformation.

Now, what kind of relationship NCF has established with Transformasi to support policy dialogue as well as capacity building program with Indonesian mayors, let's say, and also their key important strategic staff?

Well,

what we're bringing to Jakarta in June, from 9 to 11 June, is the New Cities Summit, which is really a global event. We've had it in Paris, in Sao Paulo, in Dallas, and now we're bringing it to Asia for the first time. It's a global discussion, 800 people from 50 countries, CEOs, entrepreneurs, startups, investors, mayors, even artists and philosophers. But we want to make it locally relevant. We want this to kick off a transformation of Indonesian cities. And to do that,

we

need great local partners here, and particularly in the public sector. And so Transformasi, we're very excited about working with them because they are really working with local government officials, with mayors,

on

this transformation of Indonesia. And so the partnership seemed very natural to us. We bring a global discussion and best practices, and they will hopefully help implement it here to improve Indonesian cities, which is one of our goals.

So you see Transformasi as the best effective channel in terms of bridging you, the summit, as well as the Indonesian government.

Yes, absolutely.

I see. Specific more about this summit. All the way, come to Asia and to Jakarta, to Indonesia. Why Jakarta? It's a privilege for us, of course, but then this also raises us a question, why would you choose Jakarta in the first place, in the first time in Asia, if I'm not mistaken?

Yes, absolutely. Well, the event takes place in a different continent every year, and it moves around to learn about the case studies of a particular region in a particular city. And we were approached by the government of Jakarta to bring it here, and I have to admit that I had never been to Indonesia, and I didn't really know that much about Jakarta. And I came here, and I was really struck by this sense of optimism and this sense of opportunity that I was talking about, which is why we chose Jakarta, because it remains, I don't want to say mysterious, but it's not very well known what the great dynamism of this city outside Asia, perhaps.

So we're very excited to be here, and I think for our Asian conversation on cities, it's a perfect place because it embodies both the challenges, traffic, flooding, and others, but also the huge opportunity of Asian cities, and very much of the urban story takes place in Asia. So we're very excited to be in Asia, and very, very excited to be partnering with the governor here to bring this event to Jakarta.

How excited can we be in terms of facing and welcoming this event in terms of creating perception or image about our beloved capital city, Jakarta, to this reputable international event called Summit of the NCF?

Well, I'm sure it will be great. I mean, we were really struck by the hospitality of people here, by their sense of opportunity, their desire to partner. So all of the entrepreneurs, CEOs, etc., who will come here for the first time, I

think they'll

have a really happy surprise and discover the great potential of Indonesia and of Jakarta.

How long the summit will last?

It

will last three days, but really it will be a week because there are side events and other activities. And so we welcome the opportunity to collaborate with whoever wants to take part and join the discussion in some way.

All right, another more detail about the summit will be brought to our viewers soon after this one. Econic Bus will be back soon with Morphe from Matthew Lefebvre, Executive Director at New Cities Foundations.

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Business News for You, The Government Would Revise the Presidential Regulation About Trans Sumatera Highway Development Acceleration Immediately, Minister of Public Works and People's Housing Explained that the state contractor company Would be responsible for more tasks Than it was given earlier.

Government

would soon revise The Presidential Regulation No. 100 Year 2014 About Trans Sumatera Highway Development Acceleration.

After

the regulation is being revised, The state company in charge For the development PT Hutama Karya

Would

be getting more details On the company's tasks Related to the project.

Minister

of Public Works and People's Housing Basuki Hadimulyonu stated That with the revision, State contractor company PT Hutama Karya Which is appointed To be responsible in some part Of the development Would be getting more tasks

Than

the company previously given.

As

it has been reported before, PT Hutama Karya is initially given responsibility To do four lanes of the highway. However, After the regulation being revised, The company would have to do

To

the construction of 23 lanes Of the highway.

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sedikit multi-tafsir di sana Di perpres ratus Di sana sebutkan bahwa Penugasan pada Hutama Karya Di empat ruas itu Sedangkan ada klausur lain Bahwa ruas-ruas lainnya Akan ditentukan oleh Menteri.

It

is plain that Hutama Karya Would be establishing Subsidiary Company.

This

is so the company Would be able to accelerate The development of Trans Sumatra Highway To support connectivity in Indonesia. Meanwhile, Looking at the presidential regulation Number 100 year 2014, Hutama Karya is in charge For the development of Medan Binjai Lane Of 16 kilometer.

Palembang

Indralaya Lane Of 22 kilometer. Bakalini Terbanggi Of 138 kilometer. And Pekanbaru Dumai Of 135 kilometer. Jakarta Ayos Carlos MNC Business.

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watching Economy Bus with Mathieu Lefevre Executive Director At New Cities Foundation Or NCF To share his view Of the topic That we bring up In this talk show. NCF New Cities Foundation Why you should come To Indonesia as well. How do you see From Indonesia Representing NCF As the Executive Director?

I think Indonesia Is full of promise And surprises As I was saying. And every time I come here I just want One thing Is to take two months off And to go travel In some of the

islands. There's always

something new?

There is always something new Apparently, yeah, yeah, absolutely. But it really inspired us To devise the topics For the summit in June And we were really inspired By the experience Of this city.

What are actually The main area Of working at NCF? And what things Will you cover Here in Indonesia?

Well,

I think For the New Cities Summit In June Here in Jakarta We will cover Some of the issues That all cities Ask themselves. So we're going to talk About housing And affordable housing Which is a very, very Important question For people here But also in Paris In New York In Tokyo In Beijing We're going to talk About traffic Of course Indonesia And Jakarta Has the worst traffic In the world now Officially So of course We're going to talk About

that

Notoriously known For that

Notoriously known And I've experienced It myself today Many times On

the way here Right away On the way here

Absolutely Yeah, yeah, yeah We're going to talk About something That I think Has An enormous potential Which is technology People talk about Smart cities, etc Technology really has Transformational potential How do you use technology And in Asia People use technology A lot The penetration Of social media For example Is extremely high In Jakarta Is one of the biggest

Cities

in the world So we're going to talk About how technology Can help us Seize the urban moment And seizing the urban moment Is our overall theme Then we're going to talk About design, architecture We're going to talk About the role Of culture And cultural institution And tourism In creating a city's identity So we're going to talk About all of that There will be

90

speakers Lots of different sessions 90, 9-0 9-0 That's

a lot of speakers From all over

the world Yeah, yeah And we're very excited Because some very prominent CEOs and speakers Including Muhammad Yunus The Nobel Peace Prize winner Will come to announce A

major

initiative At our summit So it's going to be A very rich conversation

Okay, speaking about The previous summit

How

was it going The last summit Let's see Which town As the host And then what kind Of result Has been discussed There during the Previous last summit Before Jakarta

Right

Well, our last summit Was in Dallas, Texas Which is a city That is reinventing itself So the theme last year Was reimagining cities And I'm really proud And touched That our summit Kicked off a conversation For Dallas They're still Talking about the issues And they've Implemented programs As a result of our summit The summit is a great Spark of inspiration But then it's for Local partners And local companies And mayors, etc To take that energy And transform it Into action

Talking

is great And it's very important And imagining And dreaming up your city Is essential But it's all about action Yeah Put it into

practice Really walk the talk We used the last session To sum up and conclude Our discussion for this evening But make sure you are sleep with us We still have one more session On eBus Discussing about understanding Urban development challenges With New Cities Foundation Or NCF You can go visit the homepage At newcitiesfoundation.org

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have reached our last session Discussing about Understanding urban development challenges With New Cities Foundation NCF We're going to have another view From Mathieu Lefevre Executive Director At New Cities Foundation To conclude this view Toward our topic Well in short We keep discussing About the government support And then how business Actually can create A much conducive And friendlier Urban cities And also spatial area But

it's

rarely been discussed Also in the media When we talk about The community awareness All of those Will mean nothing If you don't have This kind of Growing community awareness How NCF Through your projects And programs In the same time Can encourage This kind of Community awareness

Right

absolutely I'm so glad You asked that question Because too often People talk about Government And the private sector But it leaves out A third part A third leg of the stool Which is the people And I think The nature of Organization And power Has changed a lot People have a lot More power than they used to For example Because they have

A

tool in their pocket Many of them Called a smartphone Or even a not smartphone Where they can express Their views

We

talked about Social media earlier Where the penetration In Asia and in Jakarta Is enormous And so there's a real need And an opportunity For people to create A movement For this green city That we've been talking about And that

can

be Very powerful

What are the key messages Would like to be Brought up to our society To the summit For this 2015 The coming June In Jakarta

Well

I think the main Message that we will bring Is to focus on cities If you want to Drive progress And drive change On the economy On job creation On environmental issues On social issues

Focus

on cities Cities are where Change happens That's the main message And then we want To bring everybody in The companies The public sector The people Non-profits Etc Into the mix So that together We can have that conversation To make cities better

Alright

Mathieu I mustn't hold you For any longer Mathieu Lefevre You are the executive director At New Cities Foundation Merci beaucoup Again Thank you so much

Thank you very much To Jakarta

We are expecting you To back again To Jakarta We

want to come to

Indonesia And again Merci beaucoup Au revoir

Thank

you Au revoir Merci

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