LIVE: French Minister Roland Lescure Briefs Media on G7 Finance Talks in Paris
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Questions et réponses
Taux de réponse directe : 95 % (directe = 1, partielle = 0,5, éludée = 0)
- 21:17OuverteRéponse directe
Can you tell your...
- 21:56OuverteRéponse directe
Vous avez évoqué des discussions franches et parfois difficiles. La guerre au Moyen-Orient doit-elle se terminer au plus vite ?
- 23:05RelanceRéponse directe
You said Russia must not benefit from the war in Ukraine. Do you agree with the US waiver on Russian oil sanctions?
- 25:05OuverteRéponse directe
You mentioned domestic measures to address macro imbalances. What precisely do you have in mind?
- 25:37OuverteRéponse directe
On the critical materials, have you narrowed the options on the common toolbox?
- 31:06OuverteRéponse directe
Regarding food security, have you discussed specific measures including fertilizers?
Affirmations vérifiables (citations exactes)
- 3:43Invité politiqueChiffre
« 50 million people might be faced with a food crisis very soon »
- 5:57Invité politiqueChiffre
« The China surplus is now $1,200 billion, 20% of global exports »
- 8:01Invité politiqueFait
« One electric car requires 150 magnets »
- 16:40InvitéChiffre
« this cost has increased, in average, through the last 30 years, of at least 5% each year »
- 23:48Invité politiqueFait
« we should open the Strait of Hormuz as soon as possible, not at any cost, and suddenly free of charge »
- 26:32Invité politiqueFait
« Europe needs more investment »
- 26:35Invité politiqueFait
« China needs more consumption »
- 26:38Invité politiqueFait
« the US deficit needs to go down »
- 34:56Invité politiqueFait
« nous avons en tête un certain nombre de pays aux côtés duquel il va falloir être de manière très concrète »
- 36:34InvitéPromesse
« ramener l'inflation à sa cible de 2% dans notre cas à moyen terme. »
- 36:55InvitéPromesse
« nous serons prêts à agir comme il le faut parce que nous avons une obligation de résultat. »
- 40:16InvitéFait
« les États-Unis qui nous ont par exemple remercié quand on a libéré les stocks stratégiques au mois de mars de manière collective, reconnaissent quand même que parfois, ça peut aider. »
- 1:49:06Invité politiqueFait
« Europe needs more investment »
- 1:49:09Invité politiqueFait
« China needs more consumption »
- 1:49:12Invité politiqueFait
« the US deficit needs to go down »
- 1:57:27Invité politiqueFait
« l'Irak par exemple qui est un pays qui dépend cruellement de ces ressources de pétrole »
- 2:06:49Invité politiqueChiffre
« if we don't do anything 50 million people might be faced with a food crisis very soon »
- 2:08:49Invité politiqueChiffre
« the China surplus is now 1200 billion dollars »
- 2:08:50Invité politiqueChiffre
« 20% of global exports »
Temps de parole
- Roland Lescure55 %
- Invité22 %
- ?14 %
- Invité 22 %
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Le
niveau de notre discussion matchs le moment
de
ce G7.
Cette
meeting
est
en train
de faire un message
sur les virtues de dialogue
et
de sustainability.
Mais
c'est aussi sur la nécessité
de
prendre
action. Et
je vous dis quelque chose, à ceux qui questionent la existence de
ce
G7,
les
dernières semaines, j'ai l'impression qu'ils ont
fait
mal.
C
'est
le
7th formal G7 meeting que j'ai présenté depuis janvier, avec
les
organisations et les ministres
de l'Assemblée. Not
only pour
les
situations, mais aussi pour trouver des
solutions
long-term pour construire
un soutien
de croissance.
Et
je vais vous
dire
encore,
c
'est à prendre action.
Nous
avons fait ça en mars, quand nous avons annoncé les stocks
de
stratégie reserves.
Et
à ce moment-là,
nous
avons eu
l
'impact sur le prix de l'Oil. Et nous nous sommes, aujourd'hui, encore, gathers à avoir plus d'actions planned.
Dans
les deux jours, nous avons
eu
des discussions demandantes, mais très constructives,
avec
les G7 finance ministres, avec les central bankers,
en
la spirit de coopération, de shared responsibility,
et
en une très bonne working atmosphere, je dois dire.
I
would like to give a special greeting to my colleague and friend, François Villouet-Galot. He's not going to like the two seconds I'm going to spend on him, but still. But not more than two seconds. Not more than two seconds. Thank you very much for your outstanding work, not only during this G7, but for decades, including the last decade, at the service of the Bank of France. You've played a key role in the French economy, in the European economy, in the global economy.
Thank
you very much, dear François.
From
the beginning of the G7 track, we had three main priorities to address global economic challenges. One, to reduce global economic imbalances. Two,
to
work on our dependencies on critical minerals.
And
three, to revend international partnership.
But
G7 is also about managing emergencies,
thus
dealing with the ongoing crisis.
And regarding
this specific crisis, we have asked
the
IMF and the World Bank to upgrade their support to countries
which
are hit by the crisis.
There
are.
We
have the list.
We
know, and Ajabanga and Kristalina Dorjeva were very clear.
If
we don't do anything, 50 million people
might
be
faced
with a food crisis very soon. We need to act, and I'll get back to that. Because the crisis has a severe impact on the most vulnerable ones, we need to support them at home and abroad.
We
had, we have a G7 communique. You probably have it already, and if you don't, you're going to get it very soon.
But
in addition, and for the first time,
we
had a special focus communique on global economy and global imbalances
which
we worked on with other countries.
Because
this G7 was not just a
G7.
We had a special guest.
We
had a session this morning, being very productive with Brazil, India, Kenya, and South Korea.
They
contributed to
the...
We're
about
to discuss the global economy, but also be highly impressed
with
their resilience and their adaptability.
They
are on the forefront of the crisis, and we command their resilience.
Now
let's come back to our three main priorities. First, global imbalances.
We
all share a common view. Those imbalances are not sustainable.
They're
growing, they're persistent, they create unprecedented geopolitical, political, economic, and financial tensions.
They
have to stop.
On
one side,
you
have China with an excessive
surplus
that's growing every day. On the other side, the U.S. with a major deficit.
And
on the third side, Europe, which doesn't invest enough. And this is affecting everyone, us included,
but
also everyone else.
We
have a record in this story. The China surplus is now $1,200 billion, 20% of global exports,
and
with concrete impacts on our daily lives. This is about jobs. This is about industry. This is about affordability.
This
is about consumption.
This
situation undermines our citizens' trust in globalization
in
our very model.
And
this is not good news for our country, including outside of the G7.
We
all share common interests.
At
the end of the day, it's not about whose fault it is,
but
how we,
all
together, address the situation. We share the need to take domestic measures
based
on the analysis driven by the IMF and the OECD.
We
need to increase investments. We need to improve productivity. We need to end market distorting policies.
Those
measures will be tracked by the IMF, alongside with relevant international organizations such as the OECD.
And
we are going to keep on engaging with other countries in order to provide our leader again with a great assessment and hopefully an action plan
by
the time Avian comes.
One
very good example of what is an imbalance, what
an
imbalance
is,
is the issue of critical minerals.
And
as the G7, we decided to tackle this matter together. Canada started tackling this issue in the previous presidency. We took it on board. We've brought it further. Global imbalances
mean
global dependencies.
Critical
materials and rare earth might be an abstract concept.
to
some of you,
though
they are very, very, very special goods.
It's
a very small market,
but
a disruption, and we've seen it over the last year on that market,
can
cause a huge impact on the economy.
One
electric car
requires
150 magnets. If we don't have the rare earth, we don't have the magnets. If we don't have the magnet, we don't have the car.
Therefore, a
supply shock of permanent magnets can put hundreds of factories out of work.
This
is why we decided in the G7
to
extend the critical mineral alliance that Canada created this time last year
in
order to
put
together a plan that's going to be very concrete on building stockpiles, on trustability of value chain, on structuring information sharing among us,
on
mobilizing multilateral development banks and the private sector to boost investment,
and
to make sure that we provide our leaders with a concrete list of projects
that
show that we can do it.
Regarding
dependencies, the ongoing war exposed our vulnerabilities.
The
conflict in the Middle East is impacting our lives and global economy.
On
that matter, and Francois will get back to that, we benefited from central banks and financial stability board assessment.
The
uncertainty is putting growth and inflation at risk, and we know in what direction. Possibly less growth,
probably
more inflation.
Most
vulnerable countries endure increasing energy and food prices, the fertilizers and supply chain are under pressure.
There
are some people,
some sectors,
some countries under stress right now.
It's
cropping season in a big part of the world, and let us not forget that inflation in fertilizers and food
means
that some people will have difficulties to buy and or to find foods in the next few weeks and months. Everyone agrees that the top priority is to take trade flows back
to
normal.
We
call for the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz.
We
call for a lasting resolution to the conflict.
We
will closely monitor its impact with international organizations.
But
I want to be clear.
The
Strait of Hormuz needs to be open,
free
of charge.
We
know that the longer it takes, the tougher it will be for our economy. And in the meantime, you know that we coordinated strategic reserve release in March. We also agreed on avoiding non-cooperative actions such as export ban.
We
do believe that targeted and temporary measures are the most effective directed to the most affected households and businesses.
And
for country in need, IMF and multilateral development banks will continue working together
using
the full range of their tools and in line with their respective mandate.
We
all agree
that
given the current situation, we should try by all means to avoid a food crisis.
We
want an action plan to be presented to our leaders in Evian this time, next month,
with
a special attention to fertilizers in order to mitigate the impact of the conflict
on
agricultural production and food security.
Time
is of the essence. We must
act. It
will be a joint G7 finance and development work,
which
will also involve relevant international organizations, such as the Food and Agricultural Organization, the International Fund,
the
World Bank, and so on.
As
you know, support to Ukraine has been an important part of our work over the last four years.
It
still is.
Support
to Ukraine is a major commitment of our presidency, and I want to reaffirm our strong and definitive support.
This
is why it was important for us to convey Finance Minister of Ukraine, Seri Martenko, and the Governor of the Central Bank.
And
I want to make it very clear. Russia cannot benefit from the war in the Middle East. This is not an option, and on this,
all
G7 members agree.
On
Ukraine, we've made huge progress on closing the financing gap. We are not there yet.
We
are supporting them. There's reform conditions. We need Ukraine to put their side of the story, which is putting reforms in place. They are strongly committed to that. We are strongly committed
in
maintaining and pursuing sanctions
and
pressures on Russia
to
prevent them from getting critical revenues and financing the war effort.
And
in addition,
we
committed to finance the repair of the Chernobyl confinement.
Ladies
and gentlemen, before I give the floor to Francois,
I
would just like to reiterate that this was
an
important,
very
important, extremely important meeting
addressing
the major economic challenge of the 21st century.
I'm
very well aware of just how important this is.
My
colleagues
are
very well aware
of
just how important it is.
We
know our responsibility on this critical moment.
In
the face
of
geopolitical events,
in
the face of economic imbalances,
in
the face of our dependencies, multilateralism is not an ideal,
it's
not an option,
it's
the most powerful tool.
The
law of the fittest just doesn't work.
We're
ending this with a shared commitment to build a more stable, a more resilient,
a
fairer global economy.
The
road ahead is demanding,
but
our will is even stronger.
To
this extent, we've been working since the first day. Now we need to drive this momentum through to the avian summit
between
the 15th and the 17th of June. Thank you. Francois,
c
'est à toi.
Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr.
Roland,
allow me one person a
word in French
and
some compliments in English.
The
word personal, the Minister has said that it was my last G7.
I
can say, with the recul of 11 years, and so many points of comparison,
that
the G7 of Paris, this G7 of Paris, has been a very good G7. And it's
not
only us who say it, it's also our colleagues from the other countries who were there.
Very
good G7. What did you think
of
the
G7 of Paris,
it's because the discussions intervened
in
a difficult moment.
But
I think they have three
characteristics
that make the success. They have been, without complaisance, illusibles,
face
to the gravitation of the situation, face also to the
désaccords. Elles
ont été libres,
entre responsables
de haut niveau,
et
puis elles ont été en confiance.
If
I now come to the substance, and only to compliment what the Minister said about the
outcome,
may I insist about some deliverables of what I call pragmatic multilaterrorism. Yes, multilaterrorism is of the essence, but we should be pragmatic in our deliverables. How can we improve the life of our fellow citizens?
Let
me quote three examples we touched upon.
First,
cyber.
And
we had
the
conclusion of a so-called cyber exercise, and
we
decided to strengthen our common work among G7 facing, as we all know, increasing threats.
Second,
extreme weather events.
And
you will see in the communique, there are at least two paragraphs on this issue, which we discussed at 7,
and
in a pragmatic manner, again, to quote one figure, according to private insurers,
the
cost of extreme weather events, the economic cost, has been more than $200 billion last year, 25.
And
this cost has increased, in average, through the last 30 years,
of
at least 5% each year.
So,
the issue of insurability, fulfilling the protection insurance gap, is a key issue. There are private solutions,
or
private public solutions.
We
decided to go on working on these solutions in the G7 framework. And third example, and I pay tribute to you, Minister, and to your team, fight against financial crime.
There
is a very important conference organized this afternoon, but we had the Gaffi, in French, or FATF, chairwoman, coming. As you know, FATF
was
created by the G7 in Paris in 1989. It's based in Paris.
And
it's also,
for
the good of our fellow citizens, think of drug traffic, drug dealers, when we fight against illicit flows, we endeavor to improve the life of our fellow citizens.
Can
I conclude with two issues we discussed more as central bankers in two dedicated sessions?
I
could have mentioned also, and you will see it in the derivatives of the G7, quantum computing, or all our work on non-bank financial intermediations. This refers to financial stability. But I would like to conclude with two issues we discussed more as central bankers.
First,
cross-border payments.
And
this is also a very practical progress for millions and millions of people around the globe. We know that cross-border payments are
too
slow, too expensive at present.
We
decided to accelerate the interlinking of our fast payment system and adopted common values and prepare a practical handbook on there.
We
should make cross-border payments definitely quicker, cheaper,
and
safer.
And
last but not least, we discussed obviously among central bankers, monetary policy, and global economy. And here, I link it directly to what you said, Roland.
It
was in a broadened circle with our South Korean, Indian, and Kenyan colleagues.
We
obviously face a diversity of situation. Let me stress from an economic standpoint
that
there are two supply shocks happening at global level at present. An energy supply shock, obviously, linked to the conflict and negative for most jurisdictions.
But
a positive supply shock on artificial intelligence.
And
the combination of these two shocks is
different
from one jurisdiction to another.
But
that said,
we
discussed obviously the increasing uncertainty increased by the ongoing conflict in the Middle East. It heightened risk, as you said, to both growth and inflation.
We
discussed hate and volatility on sovereign bonds market.
It
has several reasons.
The
uncertainty I just mentioned, including political uncertainty in some directions,
some
questions on fiscal policies,
but
let us be clear, fears of inflation.
And
this is for us central banks.
So,
we reaffirm
strongly our
collective commitment to monetary policy and ensuring price stability and anchoring inflation a target for the midiater.
and
this is a strong collective commitment.
You
will see it in the communique. Monetary policy will remain data dependent
and
we are closely monitoring what we call the second round effect
on
core inflation, on inflation expectations and on economic activity.
We
are ready to act as much as necessary. The precise answer clearly belongs to each central bank and each jurisdiction.
And I
will stop there
and
we'll answer your questions.
Can
you tell
your... Évidemment,
les questions en français sont les bienvenues.
Et
on répondra en français.
Georges,
j'ai
l'idée du politico. Du coup, je vais poser ma question en français. Vous avez évoqué, monsieur le ministre, des discussions franches directes et parfois difficiles. Je vais me demander si les réunions d'hier et d'aujourd'hui ont été l'occasion de rappeler pour les Européens le fait que la guerre au Moyen-Orient doit se terminer au plus vite et de parler du fait que les conséquences économiques se feront sentir davantage en Europe. Merci beaucoup.
Je
pense qu
'il
n
'y a
pas que les Européens qui pensent ça. Nous pensons tous qu'elles doivent se terminer au plus vite.
On
est engagés dans un conflit difficile. Nous sommes évidemment tous convaincus que l'Iran ne doit pas avoir accès à la bombe atomique, que les enjeux balistiques doivent être traités.
Et tout
ça, je dirais, je le laisse à mes collègues
qui
s'occupent de géopolitique, mais nous sommes tous évidemment conscients que
le
plus tôt, on ouvrira le détroit d'Harmouz, le plus tôt, ce nœud économique d'un conflit géopolitique sera tranché. Le mieux, on se portera tous.
Mais
je l'ai dit, je vous le répète, ça ne se fera pas à n'importe quel prix, notamment
au
prix de je ne sais quel péage qui contreviendrait de manière flagrante aux droits internationaux. Voilà, on fait face à une réalité, on est un monde avec lequel on vit et on fait tout pour, en collectif, s'assurer que les
conséquences
économiques de ce choc sont les plus limitées possibles. Et notamment, j'insiste là-dessus,
pour
les plus vulnérables, parce que ça a été notre focus depuis deux jours et ça le reste.
Bonjour, Monsieur le Ministre. Juste une question en anglais. Ross Culloden from Channel News Asia. You said that you were aligned
with
your G7 colleagues that Russia must not benefit from the war in Ukraine.
The
United States has announced another waiver of sanctions on Russian oil. Do you agree with that extension of the waiver? If you're aligned with your G7 colleagues
and
separately also on your discussions with Mr. Besant,
did
you call again with him for the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz?
And
did you get any sense from the United States delegation
of
their next moves in terms of the conflict?
Thank
you.
Well,
we all agree, Scott Besant included, that we should open the Strait of Hormuz as soon as possible, not at any cost, and suddenly free of charge.
You
know, he's given us a bit of an update on the state of the conversation.
One
of the beauties, and I know it's frustrating for some of you guys of the G7 in that not everyone we say necessarily comes out of the room.
I
was talking to someone who was involved in G7 a long time ago
who
said to me that at first
a
G7 was a meeting behind closed doors with seven leaders, no staff, no agenda, no note-taking. I mean, we've gone much further and we're now having a press conference exchanging with you on what we said and the outcome.
We
have a communique, there's tons of work being done. There's still conversations that are not going to come out because this is the beauty of the exercise. On the waiver on
Russian
oil, this is certainly not a G7 decision. So I'll let you ask Scott Besson why and how they decided to do that. But I can tell you that the willingness of the G7 to keep on putting pressure
on
sanctions on Russia
was
unanimous and that nobody wants Russia to have a windfall profit of what's going on
in
the Middle East.
Lee
Thomas from Reuters. You mentioned domestic measures to address the unsustainable macro imbalances. What precisely do you have in mind and how can
having
the IMF and the OECD track those make a difference? And then secondly, on the critical materials, have you sort of narrowed the options on the common toolbox? What are the concrete steps
that
you're going to take going forward?
on the
global
imbalances,
I
think we all understand that
it's
not about finger-pointing. It's not about telling you should do this or you should do that. And suddenly, we all reply to our parliaments, I don't want to go to the French parliament telling them that the G6 has told the seventh number which is me to do this and that.
the
idea, and I know it's
a
conversation that requires a change of mindset,
not
a mindset that thinks that in every conversation there's a winner and there's a loser, but that we can have conversations together where together we can win-win.
And
that's what the IMF analysis and that's what Hélène Reyes' Economist Group has brought to the table as well,
which
is, at the end of the day, if each of us does the right thing,
we'll
all together be better off.
I
said, very simply, Europe needs more investment.
I
said, very simply, China needs more consumption. And I said, very simply,
the
US deficit needs to go down. Well, guess what? When you talk to these people, every one of us says that we should do it.
The
question is,
can
we have a way of doing this together, coordinating ourselves, doing it simultaneously because everyone around the table admits
that
if we do it together, it's going to be more efficient. And that requires a conversation that hasn't happened yet. There's been
lots
of bilateral discussions.
The
president would like to, my president, Emmanuel Macron, would like to engage with all the actors
and
including China that wasn't here today, but also Brazil, India,
some
countries of Africa, Europe, the US and others, Canada and others,
to
make sure that together we can find a roadmap. And hopefully, this is going to happen between now and Evian. We're not there yet, but we had great productive conversation on this. On the raw material and critical mineral acts,
the
way I would describe the Lego we tried to build
is
threefold. One,
the
International Energy Agency was created in the 70s, faced with, at that time, a big old shock
that
made us realize that we didn't have the tools to follow the market, to understand where inventories were, to understand where vulnerabilities were. So, we want to be able, together, as a G7, to follow that market.
We
probably call that a task force. The idea is not to build a new agency. The IEA is doing a great job. The OECD is doing a great job. But we want to be able to monitor the market, to understand them,
to
understand where stockpilings are, where stockpilings are missing,
to
make sure that we are able as a group to say, okay, the market's okay, no need
to
act, or the market's not okay, and there's one of those markets where we need to act.
Two,
there's discussions on agreements that could take different ways that are taking place at the initiative of the U
.S., that
could look at different ways and tools of addressing market inefficiencies. There could be price laws, there could be tariffs, there could be
quotas,
and this is an ongoing work that hasn't completely landed yet.
But
three, I think most importantly, we need to show that together we are able to change the conversation, make things happen on the ground that are changing the balance of power
for
those rare earths that are becoming critical to electrification.
Two
weeks ago, I was in the southwest of France
looking
at a factory that's been financed by U.S., Japan, and France
that's
going to recycle and produce 10% of the rare earth we need in the world, in Pau, in LAC, in the southwest of France. And those 10% are going to be half of taken
by
Japan. This is, again, what you call, Francois, multilateralism on the ground, pragmatic multilateralism. We are showing the ground that we can produce alternatives to a market for which it has to be acknowledged we have a monopoly today from one country.
If
I may add one word on the part of the question referring to domestic measures, if I got it right, Lee. There was unanimous agreement around the table that such measures should be, you remember, the famous TTT, targeted, temporary, and tailored. Unanimous agreement.
Can
I add two practical observations?
so
far, the IMF has an IMF tracker, measures taken by jurisdictions, I don't say they all perfectly comply with the three T's,
but
such measures are much more limited than after 22,
and
rightly so, if you look at the quantum compared to GDP.
And
may I add, Mr. Minister, a remark for France, as a very independent central banker,
so
far, I think the sober answer by the French authorities is welcome in this period. Because we all know if we don't respect the TTT, it creates fiscal problem, obviously, but it was reminded yesterday, it increases
oil
demand globally.
And
this is exactly the contrary of what we should do.
need.
Thank you so much. Susumu Sakamoto from the Asahi Shimbun, Japanese media. Regarding the food security, have you discussed any specific measures, including sitting in
the
corridor for fertilizer? or, yeah?
Yeah,
I mean, as you know, that was one of the U.S. ideas that was brought forward at the G20 in Washington about a month ago.
This
is one of the options we could look at.
We
have to make sure that
the
most vulnerable countries, it's cropping season there, cannot be durably affected by the crisis on fertilizers. So this could be one of the options. There's other options in terms of diversification of supply, and maybe stock depiling, that could happen as well. But we suddenly are willing to do whatever it takes to make sure that no food crisis is coming after this Gulf War.
Yeah,
oui?
Romain
Tardino pour le journal SPC de société. Bonjour, Monsieur le Ministre. Bonjour, Monsieur le Gouverneur. J'ai une question pour vous. En fait, il y a deux semaines, vous disiez que
le
kérosène n'allait pas être à risque. le conflit s'enlise.
Qu
'en est-il aujourd
'hui?
J
'ai la même réponse qu'il
y a
deux semaines. Heureusement,
on
suit les choses évidemment de très près, mais quand on regarde le marché du kérosène en Europe, en France singulièrement, puisque c'était
la
réponse à une question qui m'était posée il y a 15 jours à l'occasion de l'évocation de la saison touristique de cet été,
le
fait qu'on ait augmenté nos capacités de raffinage, le fait qu'on ait diversifié nos approvisionnements, notamment en provenance des États-Unis, qui eux-mêmes ont augmenté leur production de kérosène,
fait
que nous sommes confiants sur notre capacité collective cet été à s'assurer que les avions puissent voler en France, de France et vers la France.
Bonjour
Mathilde Odoemi, France Inter. Deux questions pour chacun d'entre vous. Monsieur le ministre,
je
veux bien que vous repreniez en quoi cette réunion du G7 va permettre de temporiser les conséquences de la crise actuelle
pour
nos sociétés.
Et
monsieur le gouverneur, est-ce que le fait d'avoir vu tous les banquiers centraux vous a permis d'arrêter une décision ou des avancées en vue des réunions futures de juin, sachant que tout le monde avait décidé de temporiser
? Et
puisque vous parliez d'indépendance tout à l'heure de la Banque centrale, petite question franco-française, puisque les députés socialistes ont choisi de ne pas soutenir Emmanuel Moulin en commission, est-ce que vous pensiez que votre succession serait si compliquée
?
Merci.
Je
veux commencer
? Oh
non, non, honneur au ministre.
Bon,
face
à une crise globale, le G7 a une fois de plus montré son
intérêt. À
la fois, je dirais, entre nous sept,
mais
aussi au-delà.
Les
discussions qu'on a eues avec nos amis kényans, nos amis indiens, nos amis brésiliens, puis avec nos amis du Golfe
au
déjeuner, nous ont montré
que la
meilleure manière de gérer cette crise, c'était de se concentrer sur les plus vulnérables. Des mesures à tas uniques qui concerneraient tout le monde, y compris ceux qui n'en ont pas besoin, que ce soit des secteurs, que ce soit des ménages,
que
ce soit des pays, seraient évidemment une mauvaise manière de répondre à cette crise. Pourquoi
? C
'est ce qu'on appelle une crise d'offres, un choc d'offres.
On
manque du jour au lendemain d'une partie du pétrole mondial.
Et
si on répond globalement en subventionnant massivement la demande, on va se retrouver avec un déséquilibre encore plus marqué. Et donc, ce consensus autour de notre capacité collective à identifier les plus vulnérables
et
à
diriger
nos mesures vers eux, c'était évidemment un des éléments concrets de ce G7.
Mais
de surtout,
nous
avons, avec le FMI, avec la Banque mondiale, identifié ces plus vulnérables.
Et
nous avons en tête un certain nombre de pays
aux
côtés duquel il va falloir être de manière très concrète avec des instruments qui existent
au
service du Fonds monétaire et de la Banque mondiale pour les aider. On a des pays aujourd'hui, l'Irak par exemple,
qui
est un pays qui dépend cruellement de ses ressources de pétrole et qui aujourd'hui est évidemment incapable de les exporter.
Nous
devons focaliser nos mesures sur le soutien à l'Irak, évidemment, le Fonds monétaire et la Banque mondiale travaillent. Donc, de manière très concrète aujourd'hui, au-delà des enjeux de sécurité alimentaire dont je parlais tout à l'heure, ce G7 nous a permis
de
prioriser,
de
séquencer et de focaliser notre aide sur ceux qui
en ont le plus besoin. Sur vos deux questions, je vais commencer par la dernière. Vous n'allez pas être surpris par ma réponse. Concernant la nomination de mon successeur, il y
a
une procédure qui est prévue par la Constitution et les lois de la République. Elle se déroule. Laissons-la se dérouler. Et effectivement, il
y
a les auditions parlementaires demain.
La
Banque de France n'a fait aucun commentaire ni votre serviteur depuis le début de cette procédure. Elle n'a pas à en faire.
Alors,
en ce qui concerne la politique monétaire et les rencontres entre banquiers centraux, nous n'avons pas eu, je l'ai dit tout à l'heure, de discussion pays par pays ou région par région concernant la zone euro.
Alors,
il se trouve que je ne participerai pas étant parti à la prochaine réunion des conseils des gouverneurs de début juin à laquelle vous faites allusion.
Je
veux simplement redire deux choses.
La
première, c'est la volonté générale, je le rappelais tout à l'heure, d'agir dans toute la mesure nécessaire
pour
ramener l'inflation à sa cible de 2% dans notre cas
à
moyen terme.
Ça
veut dire agir et non pas sur-réagir, ça veut dire disposer des informations en ce qui concerne les effets de second tour, l'inflation sous-jacente,
les
anticipations d'inflation, notamment des ménages et des entreprises, les salaires, mais nous serons prêts à agir comme il le faut parce que nous avons une obligation de résultat. Les ménages et les entreprises français et européennes peuvent nous faire confiance pour assurer cet ancrage de l'inflation à 2%. Je le redis très fortement.
L
'autre chose, si vous me permettez une remarque un peu plus spécifique sur le débat européen, mais je n'irai pas plus loin,
je
crois qu'il ne faut pas focaliser le débat seulement sur le calendrier.
Je
vous permettez de le dire avec un sourire, quand on était au mois d'avril, c'était qu'est-ce que vous allez faire 20 avril ? Maintenant, c'est qu'est-ce que vous allez faire début juin
?
En anglais, parce que ceci prête mieux. The main question is not about the date, it's about data.
Pas
un calendrier, mais des données.
J
'ai dit à l'instant quels sont les éléments de notre fonction de réaction liée au second tour. Après, ce sera au Conseil des gouverneurs le 9 et 10 juin de décider selon ces données.
On
prend une dernière question peut-être
?
Oui. Dernière question
? Allez-y. Bonjour,
merci beaucoup. Marie Viennot, France Culture. Est-ce que vous avez parlé, parce que vous nous dites que tout le monde était d'accord pour dire que le multilatéralisme, vraiment, c'était la solution. Est-ce que vous avez parlé du commerce et notamment de la politique américaine qui n'a pas été très coopérative l'année dernière ? Est-ce que c'est un sujet qui a été abordé et quelles solutions vous y voyez ? Et quand vous nous parlez d'action concrète, vraiment, il faut qu'on... We need to take action to ce que vous dites, etc. Donc là, vous nous donnez l'exemple par exemple de l'aide du FMI et des pays qui pourraient...
Mais est-ce que vous avez d'autres exemples à nous donner, puisque vous parlez notamment des engrais, que c'est la saison où justement on en a besoin. Et est-ce qu'il faut attendre le G7 déviant en juin pour avoir vraiment la traduction concrète de ce que vous nous dites où déjà aujourd'hui, il y
a
des choses qui ont été décidées ou alors, en fait,
vous
nous amorcez tout ce qui va être concret en juin. Merci.
Peut-être pour répondre de manière un peu simpliste peut-être à votre question, l'idée de ce G7 finance, c'était un peu de faire la passe décisive à nos leaders.
C
'est vrai qu'un certain nombre de sujets importants sont en passe d'être finalisés, mais que parce que le président de la République a souhaité que ces sujets soient abordés au plus haut niveau,
parce
qu'ils concernent des sujets extrêmement importants, parce qu'ils concernent aussi l'avenir du monde, nous avons, je pense, pas mal avancé le travail de manière à ce que nos leaders puissent, je l'espère en tout cas, le conclure sur des sujets aussi importants, très concrètement, que les minerais critiques, que le règlement des déséquilibres globaux qui peut parfois paraître un peu théorique.
Mais
si la France a perdu des dizaines d'usines ces 30 dernières années, c'est du fait de ces déséquilibres globaux. Si aujourd'hui, les marchés financiers,
je
ne
peux
pas dire qu
'ils
nous inquiètent, mais en tout cas, ils nous occupent et parfois même, ils nous préoccupent, c'est en grande partie du fait de ces déséquilibres globaux. Donc, il est important évidemment d'avoir tout ça en tête
et
les leaders trancheront. Sur le commerce international, d'abord, je ne
suis
pas sûr que tout le monde considère que le multilatéralisme soit la solution à tout. Ça, c'est ma conviction. Je pense que cette réunion a montré qu'effectivement, sur tous les sujets, au fond,
plus
on parle, mieux on est. Et je pense, y compris d'ailleurs, les États-Unis qui nous ont par exemple remercié quand on a libéré les stocks stratégiques au mois de mars de manière collective, reconnaissent quand même que parfois, ça peut aider. Est-ce que ça veut dire qu'on est d'accord sur tout ? Non, sur le commerce international, c'est une des questions que vous évoquez. Évidemment, nous ne sommes pas d'accord. Et dès qu'il faut rappeler à Scott Bessene que je ne
suis
pas d'accord avec lui sur l'utilisation des tarifs dans la correction des équipes globaux, je vous rassure,
je
le fais.
Mais
une fois qu'on est ces désaccords, notre capacité collective à trouver des lieux où on peut se mettre d'accord, où on peut avancer ensemble, on peut même parfois essayer de se convaincre
qu
'on peut avancer ensemble, ce sont évidemment les bienvenus. C'est pour ça que le G7 avait été créé dans les années 70, à un moment d'un autre
choc
pétrolier, à un moment d'un autre conflit mondial. On continue à le faire et je suis très heureux de voir qu'au fond, ça fonctionne.
Merci
beaucoup. Merci à toutes. et à toutes. On continue avec la conférence « No monnaie for terror », une conférence très importante. François l'a dit, on a de manière très concrète au coin de nos rues souvent des matérialisations très réelles. On a 75 délégations présentes ici
pour
s'assurer que le financement illicite des activités illégales
ne
soit plus
dans
le monde, y compris avec les outils modernes. Merci.
Pour
la suite, pour les next steps, juste. Donc, si vous voulez aller au briefing juste après, vous pouvez suivre Juliette dans la salle de rencontre où vous êtes s'assuré. Si vous voulez aller au port de la
conférence
de NMFT pour les portes, vous pouvez suivre Elvire là, qui est à l'entrée. OK
?
Si vous voulez pour le briefing,
we
will send you the
text.
So, if you are not here, you will have the text.
7. My
president has set
a
range of priorities of which a big part
are
fundamentally economic.
This
is not just a simple gathering. 7.
My
president has set a range of priorities of which a big part
are
fundamentally economic.
This
is not just a simple gathering.
This
is the result of months
of
work and discussion. And I would like to use this opportunity to thank everyone that's been involved in the process of organizing this meeting here in Bercy,
but
also making the work land. Thank you all.
we
are at a critical moment
and
we could feel this. There was solenity
in
our discussions.
The
level of our discussion matched the momentum of this G7.
this
meeting
is
about one
delivering
a message about the virtues of dialogue
and
sustainability.
But
it's also about the necessity
of
taking actions.
And
let me tell you something to those who question the very existence of the G7.
The
last few months have proven them wrong.
This
is the seventh formal G7 meeting that I was sharing since January in all sorts of
organizations
and distributions of ministers.
Not
only to address the situation but also to find out long-term solutions to build sustainable growth.
And
I will say it again.
It
is about taking actions.
We
did it in March when we released the stocks
of
strategic reserves
and
at that time it had an impact on the price of oil and we were today again gathers to have more actions planned.
Those
past two days we had demanding conversations but very constructive discussions
with
the G7 finance ministers with the central banker
in
the spirit of cooperation of shared responsibility and in a very good working atmosphere I have to say.
I
would like to give a special greeting to my colleague and friend Francois Bilroy-Galo he's not going to like the two seconds I'm going to spend on him but still but not more than two seconds thank you very much for your outstanding work not only during this G7 but for decades including the last decade at the service of the Bank of France you've played a key role in the French economy in the European economy in the global economy
thank
you very much dear Francois
from
the beginning of the G7 track we had three main priorities to address global economic challenges
one
to reduce global economic imbalances two
to
work on our dependencies on critical minerals
and
three to revamp international partnership
but
G7 is also about managing emergencies
thus
dealing with the ongoing crisis
and
regarding this specific crisis
we
have asked the IMF and the World Bank to upgrade their support to countries which are hit by the crisis
there
are
we
have the list
we
know and Ajabanga and Kristalina Dorjeva were very clear
if
we don't do anything 50 million people
might
be faced with a food crisis very soon we need to act and I'll get back to that
because
the crisis has a severe impact on the most vulnerable ones we need to support them at home and abroad
we
had we have a G7 communique you probably have it already and if you don't you're going to get it very soon
but
in addition and for the first time
we
had a special focus communique on global economy and global imbalances which we worked on with other countries
because
this G7 was not just a G7 we had special guests
we
had a session this morning very productive with Brazil India Kenya and South Korea they contributed to the discussion
we
took major steps to take the right path towards more stability more resilience and a better understanding of our common challenges and mutual interest
and
we just had lunch with an extra set of partners from the Gulf
Qatar the
Emirates and Saudi Arabia in which once again
we're
about to discuss the global economy but also be highly impressed
with
their resilience and their adaptability they are on the forefront of the crisis and we command their resilience
now
let's come back to our three main priorities first global imbalances
we
all share a common view
those
imbalances are not sustainable
they're
growing they're persistent they create unprecedented geopolitical political economic and financial tensions
they
have to stop
on
one side you have China with an excessive surplus that's growing every day on the other side the US with a major deficit and on the third side Europe
which
doesn't invest enough and this is affecting everyone us included but also everyone else
we
have a record in this the China surplus is not 1200 billion dollars 20% of global exports
and
with concrete impacts on our daily lives
this
is about jobs this is about industry this is about affordability this is about consumption
this
situation undermines our citizens trust in globalization in our very model
and
this is not good news for our country including outside of the G7
we
all share common interests
at
the end of the day it's not about whose fault it is
but
how we
all
together address the situation this is multilateralism at its best
and
on this front we agreed to take urgent actions
we
shared the need to take domestic measures based on the analysis driven by the IMF and the OECD we need to increase investments we need to improve productivity we need to end market distorting policies
those
measures will be tracked by the IMF alongside with relevant international organizations such as the OECD
and
we are going to keep on engaging with other countries in order to provide our leader again with a great assessment and hopefully an action plan
by
the time Avian comes
one
very good example of what is an imbalance
is
the issue of critical minerals
and
as the G7 we decided to tackle this matter together Canada started tackling this issue in the previous presidency we took it on board we brought it further global imbalances
mean
global dependencies
critical
materials and rare earth might be enough track concept to some of you
though
they are very very special goods
it's
a very small market
but
a disruption and we've seen it over the last year on that market can cause a huge impact on the economy
one
electric car requires 150 magnets if we don't have the rare earth we don't have the magnets if we don't have the magnet we don't have the car therefore a supply shock of permanent magnets can put hundreds of factories out of work
this
is why we decided in the G7
to
extend the critical manual alliance that Canada created this time last year
in
order to
put
together a plan that's going to be very concrete on building stock piles on trustability of value chain on structuring information sharing among us
on
mobilizing multilateral development banks and the private sector to boost investment and to make sure that we provide our leaders with a concrete list of projects that show that we can do it
regarding
dependencies the ongoing war exposed our vulnerabilities
the
conflict in the Middle East is impacting our lives and global economy
on
that matter and Francois will get back to that we benefited from central banks
and
financial stability board assessment
the
uncertainty is putting growth and inflation at risk and we know in what direction
possibly
less growth
probably
more inflation
most
vulnerable countries endure increasing energy and food prices fertilizers and supply share now under pressure
there
are some people
some
sectors some countries under stress right now
it's
cropping season in a big part of the world and let us not forget that inflation and fertilizers and food means that some people will have difficulties to buy and or to find foods in the next few weeks and month
everyone
agrees that the top priority is to take trade flows back to normal
we
call for the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz we call for lasting resolution to the country
we
will closely monitor its impact with international organization
but
I want to be clear
the
Strait of Hormuz needs to be open
free
of charge
we
know that the longer it takes the tougher it will be for economy and in the meantime you know that we coordinated strategic reserve release in March
we
also agreed on avoiding non-cooperative actions such as export ban
we
do believe that targeted and temporary measures are the most effective directed to the most affected households and businesses
and
for country in need IMF and multilateral development banks will continue working together
using
the full range of their tools and in line with their respective mandate
we
all agree
that
given the current situation we should try by all means to avoid a food crisis
we
want an action plan to be presented to our leaders in Avian this time next month
with
a special attention to fertilizers in order to mitigate the impact of the conflict on agricultural production and food security
time
is of the essence we must
act it
will be a joint G7 finance and development work
which
will also involve relevant international organizations such as the Food and Agricultural Organization the International Fund
the
World Bank and so on
as
you know support to Ukraine has been an important part of our work over the last four years
it
still is
support
to Ukraine is a major commitment of our presidency and I want to reaffirm our strong and definitive support
this
is why it was important for us to convey finance minister of Ukraine and the governor of the central bank
and
I want to make it very clear
Russia
cannot benefit from the war in the Middle East this is not an option and on this
all
G7 members agree
on
Ukraine we've made huge progress on closing the financing gap we are not there yet
we
are supporting them there's reform conditions we need Ukraine to put their side of the story which is putting reforms in place they are strongly committed to that we are strongly committed in maintaining and pursuing sanctions and pressures on Russia
to
prevent them from getting critical revenues and financing the war effort
and
in addition
we
committed to finance the repair of the Chernobyl confinement
ladies
and gentlemen before I give the floor to Francois I would just like to reiterate that this was
an
important very important extremely important meeting
addressing
the major economic challenge of the 21st century
I'm
very well aware of just how important this is
my
colleagues are very well aware
of
just how important it is
we
know our responsibility on this critical moment
in
the face of geopolitical events
in
the face of economic imbalances
in
the face of our dependencies multilateralism is not an ideal
it's
not an option
it's
the most powerful tool
the
law of the fittest just doesn't work
we're
ending this with a shared commitment to build a more stable a more resilient a fairer global economy
the
road ahead is demanding
but
our will is even stronger
to
this end we've been working since the first day now we need to drive this momentum through to the avion summit
between
the 15th and the 17th of June
thank
you
françois c
'est à toi
merci
monsieur le ministre le
mot
personnel il se trouve le ministre l'a dit que c'était mon dernier G7
je
peux dire avec le recul de onze années et donc beaucoup de points de comparaison que le G7 de Paris ce G7 de Paris a été un très bon G7 et ce n'est pas seulement nous qui le disons c'est aussi nos collègues des autres pays qui étaient là
très
bon G7 ce qui m'a frappé c'est parce que les discussions intervenaient évidemment dans un moment difficile mais je crois qu'elles ont eu trois caractéristiques qui font le succès elles ont été sans complaisance et lucides face à la gravité de la situation face aussi au désaccord
elles
ont été libres entre responsables de haut niveau et puis elles ont été en confiance
si
je
vais
maintenant pour la substance et seulement pour compliquer ce
que
le ministre a dit sur le
de
l'outcome
je
vais vous remercier de ce qu'on appelle pragmatique multilaterrorisme oui, multilaterrorisme est de l'essence mais nous devons être pragmatique dans nos délivres comment on peut
-être
improve la vie de nos collègues de
nos
citoyens
let
me quote three examples we touched upon
first
cyber
and
we had
the
conclusion of a so-called cyber exercise and we decided to strengthen our common work among G7 facing as we all know increasing threats
second
extreme weather events
and
you will see in the communique there are at least two paragraphs on this issue which we discussed at 7
and
in a pragmatic manner again to quote one figure according to private insurers
the
cost of extreme weather events the economic cost has been more than 200 billion dollars last year 25
and
this cost has increased in average through the last 30 years
of
at least 5% each year
so
the issue of insurability
fulfilling
the protection insurance gap is a key issue there are private solutions or private public solutions we decided to go on working on these solutions in the G7 framework
and
third example and I pay tribute to you minister and to your team fight against financial crime
there
is a very important conference organized this afternoon but we had the Gaffi in French or FATF chairwoman coming as you know FATF was created by the G7 in Paris in 1989 it's based in Paris
and
it's also
for
the good of our fellow citizens think of drug traffic drug dealers when we fight against illicit flows we endeavor to improve the life of our fellow citizens
can
I conclude with two issues we discussed more central bankers in two dedicated sessions
I
could have mentioned also and you will say it in the deliverables of the G7 quantum computing or all our work on non-bank financial intermediations this refers to financial stability but I would like to conclude with two issues we discussed more central bankers
first
cross-border payments
and
this is also very practical progress for millions and millions of people around the globe we know that cross-border payments are
too
slow too expensive at present
we
decided to accelerate the interlinking of our fast payment system and adopted common values and prepare
a
practical handbook on that
we
should make cross-border payments definitely quicker cheaper and safer
and
last but not least we discussed obviously among central bankers monetary policy and global economy and here I link it directly to what you said Roland
it
was in a broadened circle with our South Korean Indian and Kenyan colleagues
we
obviously face a diversity of situation let me stress from an economic standpoint
that
there are two supply shocks happening at global level at present an energy supply shock obviously linked to the conflict and negative for most jurisdictions
but
a positive supply shock on artificial intelligence
and
the combination of these two shocks is
different
from one jurisdiction to another
but
that said
we
discussed obviously the increasing uncertainty increased by the ongoing conflict in the Middle East
it
heightened risk as you said
to
both growth and inflation
we
discussed heightened volatility on sovereign bonds market
it
has several reasons
the
uncertainty I just mentioned including political uncertainty in some directions
some
questions on fiscal policies
but
let us be clear
fears
of inflation
and
this is for us central banks
so
we reaffirm
strongly our
collective commitment to monetary policy ensuring price stability and anchoring inflation a target for the immediate
and
this is a strong collective commitment
you
will see it in the communique monetary policy will remain data dependent
and
we are closely monitoring what we call the second round effect
on
core inflation on inflation expectations and on economic activity
we
are ready to act as much as necessary the precise answer clearly belongs to each central bank and each jurisdiction
and I
will stop there
and
we'll answer your questions
can
you tell you
évidemment les questions en français sont les bienvenues
et on
répondra en français
george de la lille du politico du coup je vais poser ma question en français vous avez évoqué monsieur le ministre des discussions franches directes et parfois difficiles je vais me demander si les réunions d'hier et d'aujourd'hui ont été l'occasion de rappeler pour les européens le fait que la guerre au moyen orient doit se terminer au plus vite et de parler du fait que les conséquences économiques se feront sentir davantage en europe merci beaucoup
je
pense qu'il n
'y a
pas que les européens qui pensent ça nous pensons tous qu'elle doit se terminer au plus vite
on
est engagé dans un conflit difficile nous sommes évidemment tous convaincus que l'iran ne doit pas avoir accès à la bombe atomique que les enjeux balistiques doivent être traités
et tout
ça je dirais je le laisse à mes collègues
qui
s'occupent de géopolitique mais nous sommes tous évidemment conscients que le plus tôt on ouvrira le détroit d'armouze le plus tôt ce nœud économique d'un conflit géopolitique sera tranché le mieux on se portera tous
mais
je l'ai dit je vous le répète ça ne se fera pas à n'importe quel prix notamment au prix de je ne sais quel ph qui contreviendrait de manière flagrante au droit international voilà on fait face à une réalité on est un monde avec lequel on vit et on fait tout pour en collectif
s
'assurer que les conséquences économiques de ce choc sont les plus limités possibles et notamment j'insiste là-dessus
pour
les plus vulnérables parce que ça a été notre focus depuis deux jours et ça le reste
bonjour
monsieur le ministre juste une question en anglais Ross Cullen from Channel News Asia you said that you were aligned with your G7 colleagues that Russia must not benefit from the war in Ukraine
the
United States has announced another waiver of sanctions on Russian oil do you agree with that extension of the waiver if you're aligned with your G7 colleagues
and
separately also on your discussions with Mr Besant
did
you call again with him for the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz and did you get any sense from the United States delegation of their next moves in terms of the conflict
thank
you well we all agree Scott Besant included that we should open the Strait of Hormuz as soon as possible not at any cost and suddenly free of charge you know he's given us a bit of an update on the state of the conversation one of the beauties and I know it's frustrating for some of you guys of the G7 and that not everyone we say necessarily comes out of the room I was talking to someone who was involved in G7 a long time ago
who
said to me that at first G7 was a meeting behind closed doors with seven leaders no staff no agenda no note taking I mean we've gone much further we're now having a press conference exchanging with you on what we've said and the outcome we have a communique there's tons of work being done there's still conversations that are not going to come out because this is the beauty of the exercise on the waiver on Russian oil this is certainly not a G7 decision so I'll let you ask Scott Besson why and how they decided to do that but I can tell you that
the
willingness of the G7 to keep on putting pressure
on
sanctions on Russia was unanimous and that nobody wants Russia to have a windfall profit of what's going on in the Middle East
Lee
Thomas from Reuters
you
mentioned domestic measures to address the unsustainable macro imbalances what precisely do you have in mind and how can
having
the IMF and the OECD track those make a difference and secondly on the critical materials have you sort of narrowed the options on the common toolbox what are the concrete steps that you're going to take going forward
so
on the
on the
global imbalances
I
think we all understand that
it's
not about finger pointing it's not about telling you should do this or you should do that and suddenly we all reply to our parliaments I don't want to go to the French parliament telling them that the G6 has told the seventh number which is me to do this and that
the
idea and I know it's a conversation that requires a change of mindset
not
a mindset that thinks that in every conversation there's a winner and there's a loser but that we can have conversations together where together we can win-win and that's what the IMF analysis and that's what LNR's Economist Group has brought to the table as well
which
is at the end of the day if each of us does the right thing we'll all together be better off
I
said very simply Europe needs more investment
I
said very simply China needs more consumption
and
I said very simply the US deficit needs to go down well guess what when you talk to these people every one of us says that we should do it
the
question is
can
we have a way of doing this together coordinating ourselves doing it simultaneously because everyone around the table admits
that
if we do it together it's going to be more efficient and that requires a conversation that hasn't happened yet there's been lots of bilateral discussions
the
president would like to my president Emmanuel Macron would like to engage with all the actors and including China that wasn't here today but also Brazil India some countries of Africa Europe the US and others Canada and others to make sure that together we can find a road map
and
hopefully this is going to happen between NA and Avion we're not there yet but we had great productive conversation on this
on
the raw material and critical mineral acts
the
way I would describe the Lego we tried to build
is
threefold
one the
international energy agency was created in the 70s faced with at that time a big old shock
that
made us realize that we didn't have the tools to follow the market to understand where inventories were to understand where vulnerabilities were so we want to be able together
as
a G7 to follow that market
we
probably call that a task force the idea is not to build a new agency the IEA is doing a great job the OECD is doing a great job but we want to be able to monitor the market to understand them to understand where stockpilings are where stockpilings are missing to make sure that we are able as a group
to
say ok the market is ok no need
to
act or the market is not ok and there is one of those markets where we need to act
two
there are discussions on agreements that could take different ways that are taking place at the initiative of the US
that
could look at different ways and tools of addressing market inefficiencies there could be price flaws there could be tariffs there could be quotas and this is an ongoing work that hasn't completely landed yet
but
three I think most importantly we need to show that together we are able to change the conversation make things happen on the ground that are changing the balance of power for those rare earths that are becoming critical to electrification
two
weeks ago I was in the southwest of France
looking
at a factory that's been financed by US Japan and France that's going to recycle and produce 10% of the rare earth we need in the world
in
Pau in Lac in the southwest of France and those 10% are going to be half taken by Japan this is again what you call multilateralism on the ground pragmatic multilateralism we are showing the ground that we can produce alternatives to a market for which it has to be acknowledged we have a monopoly today from one country
if
I may add one word on the part of the question referring to domestic measures if I got it rightly there was unanimous agreement around the table that such measures should be you remember the famous triple T targeted temporary and tailored unanimous agreement can I add two practical observations
first
so far and the IMF has an IMF tracker measures taken by jurisdictions I don't say they all perfectly comply with the three T
but
such measures are much more limited than after 22 and rightly so
if
you look at the quantum compared to GDP
and
may I add Mr. Minister a remark for France as a very independent central banker
so
far I think the sober answer by the French authorities is welcome in this period because we all know if we don't respect the triple T it creates fiscal problem obviously but it was reminded yesterday it increased oil demand globally
and
this is exactly the contrary of what we should do
yeah
thank you so much Susumu Sakamoto from the Asahi Shimbun Japanese media regarding the food security have you discussed any specific measures including sit in the corridor for fertilizer yeah
I
mean as you know that was one of the US IDs that was brought forward at the G20 in Washington about a month ago
this
is one of the options we could look at
we
have to make sure that
the
most vulnerable countries it's cropping season there cannot be affected by the crisis on fertilizers so this could be one of the options there's other options in terms of diversification of supply and maybe stock depiling that could happen as well but we suddenly are willing to do whatever it takes to make sure that no food crisis is coming after this
gun
fall
yeah oui Romain
Tardino
pour
le journal spécial de la société bonjour monsieur le ministre bonjour monsieur le gouverneur j'ai une question pour vous en fait
il
y a deux semaines vous disiez que
le
kérosène n'allait pas être à risque
le
conflit s'enlise
qu
'en est-il aujourd'hui
j
'ai la même réponse qu'il
y a
deux semaines heureusement
on
suit les choses évidemment de très près mais quand on regarde le marché du kérosène en Europe en France singulièrement puisque c'était
la
réponse à une question qui m'était posée il y a 15 jours à l'occasion de l'évocation de la saison touristique de cet été
le
fait qu'on ait augmenté nos capacités de raffinage le fait qu'on ait diversifié nos approvisionnements notamment en provenance des Etats-Unis qui eux-mêmes ont augmenté leur production de kérosène fait que nous sommes confiants sur notre capacité collective cet été à s'assurer que les avions puissent voler en France de France et vers la France
Bonjour
Mathilde Odoemi France Inter Deux questions pour chacun d'entre vous Monsieur le ministre je veux bien que vous repreniez en quoi cette réunion du G7 va permettre de temporiser les conséquences de la crise actuelle pour nos sociétés
et
Monsieur le gouverneur est-ce que le fait d'avoir vu tous les banquiers centraux vous a permis d'arrêter une décision ou des avancées en vue des réunions futures de juin sachant que tout le monde avait décidé de temporiser
et
puisque vous parliez d'indépendance tout à l'heure de la banque centrale petite question franco-française puisque les députés socialistes ont choisi de ne pas soutenir Emmanuel Moulin en commission est-ce que vous pensiez que votre succession serait si compliquée merci
je
veux commencer
oh
non non honneur au ministre
bon face
à une crise globale le G7 a une fois de plus montré son intérêt
à
la fois je dirais entre nous sept
mais
aussi au-delà
les
discussions qu'on a eues avec nos amis kényans nos amis indiens nos amis brésiliens puis avec nos amis du golfe
au
déjeuner nous ont montré que
la
meilleure manière de gérer cette crise c'était de se concentrer sur les plus vulnérables des mesures à tas uniques qui concerneraient tout le monde y compris ceux qui n'en ont pas besoin que ce soit des secteurs que ce soit des ménages
que
ce soit des pays serait évidemment une mauvaise manière de répondre à cette crise pourquoi
? c
'est ce qu'on appelle une crise d'offres un choc d'offres
on
manque du jour au lendemain d'une partie du pétrole mondial
et
si on répond globalement en subventionnant massivement la demande on va se retrouver avec un déséquilibre encore plus marqué
et
donc ce consensus autour de notre capacité collective à identifier les plus vulnérables
et
à
diriger
nos mesures vers eux c'était évidemment un des éléments concrets de ce G7 mais de surtout
nous
avons avec le FMI avec la Banque mondiale identifié ces plus vulnérables
et
nous avons en tête un certain nombre de pays
aux
côtés duquel il va falloir être de manière très concrète avec des instruments qui existent
au
service du Fonds monétaire et de la Banque mondiale pour les aider on a des pays aujourd'hui l'Irak par exemple
qui
est un pays qui dépend cruellement de ses ressources de pétrole et qui aujourd'hui est évidemment incapable de les exporter
nous
devons focaliser nos mesures sur le soutien à l'Irak évidemment le Fonds monétaire et la Banque mondiale travaillent donc de manière très concrète aujourd'hui au delà des enjeux de sécurité alimentaire dont je parlais tout à l'heure ce G7 nous a permis de prioriser
de
séquencer et de focaliser notre aide sur ceux qui en ont le plus besoin
sur vos deux questions je vais commencer par la dernière vous n'allez pas être surpris par ma réponse concernant la nomination de mon successeur il y a une procédure qui est prévue par la constitution et les lois de la république elle se déroule laissons-la se dérouler et effectivement il y a les auditions parlementaires demain la Banque de France n'a fait aucun commentaire ni votre serviteur depuis le début de cette procédure elle n'a pas à en faire alors en ce qui concerne la politique monétaire et les rencontres entre banquiers centraux nous n'avons pas eu je l'ai dit tout à l'heure de discussion pays par pays ou région par région concernant la zone euro
alors
il se trouve que je ne participerai pas étant parti à la prochaine réunion des conseils des gouverneurs de début juin à laquelle vous faites allusion
je
veux simplement redire deux choses
la
première c'est la volonté générale je le rappelais tout à l'heure d'agir dans toute la mesure nécessaire
pour
ramener l'inflation à sa cible de 2% dans notre cas
à
moyen terme
ça
veut dire agir et non pas sur réagir ça veut dire disposer des informations en ce qui concerne les effets de second tour l'inflation sous-jacente
les
anticipations d'inflation notamment des ménages et des entreprises les salaires
mais
nous serons prêts à agir comme il le faut parce que nous avons une obligation de résultat les ménages et les entreprises français et européens peuvent nous faire confiance pour assurer cet ancrage de l'inflation à 2% je le redis très fortement
l
'autre chose si vous me permettez une remarque un peu plus spécifique sur le débat européen mais je n'irai pas plus loin
je
crois qu'il ne
faut
pas focaliser le débat seulement sur le calendrier
je
permettez de le dire avec un sourire quand on était au mois d'avril c'était qu'est-ce que vous allez faire 20 avril maintenant c'est qu'est-ce que vous allez faire début juin
je
vais le dire en anglais parce que ça s'y prête mieux the main question is not about the date it's about data
pas
un calendrier mais des données
j
'ai dit à l'instant quels sont les éléments de notre fonction de réaction liés au second tour après ça sera au conseil des gouvernements les 9 et 10 juin de décider selon ces données
on
prend une dernière
question
peut-être
oui dernière
question
allez
-y
bonjour
merci beaucoup Marie Viennot France Culture est-ce que vous avez parlé parce que vous nous dites que tout le monde était d'accord pour dire que le multilatéralisme vraiment c'était la solution est-ce que vous avez parlé du commerce et notamment
de
la politique américaine qui n'a pas été très coopérative l'année dernière est-ce que c'est un sujet qui a été abordé et quelles solutions vous y voyez et quand vous nous parlez d'actions concrètes vraiment il faut qu'on we need to take action tout ce que vous dites etc donc là vous nous donnez l'exemple par exemple de l'aide du FMI et des pays qui pourraient mais est-ce que vous avez d'autres exemples à nous donner puisque vous parlez notamment des engrais que c'est la saison où justement on en a besoin et est-ce qu'il faut attendre le G7 déviant en juin pour avoir vraiment la traduction concrète de ce que vous nous dites
ou
déjà aujourd'hui il
y
a des choses qui ont été décidées ou alors en fait vous nous amorcez tout ce qui va être concret en juin merci
peut-être pour répondre de manière un peu simpliste peut-être à votre question l'idée de ce G7 finance c'était un peu de faire la passe décisive à nos leaders c'est vrai qu'un certain nombre de sujets importants sont en passe d'être finalisés mais que parce que le président de la république a souhaité que ces sujets soient abordés au plus haut niveau
parce
qu'il concerne des sujets extrêmement importants parce qu'il concerne aussi l'avenir du monde nous avons je pense pas mal avancé le travail de manière à ce que nos leaders puissent je l'espère en tout cas le conclure sur des sujets aussi importants très concrètement
que
les minerais critiques
que
le règlement des déséquilibres globaux qui peut parfois apparaître un peu théorique
mais
si la France a perdu des dizaines d'usines ces 30 dernières années c'est du fait de ces déséquilibres globaux si aujourd'hui les marchés financiers
je
ne
peux
pas dire qu
'ils
nous inquiètent mais en tout cas ils nous occupent et parfois même ils nous préoccupent c'est en grande partie du fait de ces déséquilibres globaux donc il est important évidemment d'avoir tout ça en tête et les leaders trancheront
sur
le commerce international
bon
d'abord je ne
suis
pas sûr que tout le monde considère que le multilatéralisme soit la solution sur un atout ça c'est ma conviction je pense que cette réunion a montré qu'effectivement sur tous les sujets au fond
plus
on parle mieux on est
et
je pense
y compris d'ailleurs les Etats-Unis qui nous ont par
exemple remercié quand on a libéré les stocks stratégiques au mois de mars de manière collective reconnaissent quand même que parfois ça peut aider est-ce que ça veut dire qu'on est d'accord sur tout
sur
le commerce international c'est une des questions que vous évoquez évidemment nous ne sommes pas d'accord et dès qu'il faut rappeler à Scott Bessen que je ne
suis
pas d'accord avec lui sur l'utilisation des tarifs dans la correction des équipes GOGO
je
vous rassure
je
le fais
mais
une fois qu'on essaie des accords notre capacité collective à trouver des lieux
où
on peut se mettre d'accord où on peut avancer ensemble on peut même parfois essayer de se convaincre qu'on peut avancer ensemble sont évidemment les bienvenus c'est pour ça que le G7 avait été créé dans les années
70
à un moment d'un autre
choc
pétrolier à
un
moment d'un autre conflit mondial on continue
à
le faire et je suis très heureux de voir que au fond ça fonctionne
merci
beaucoup
merci
à toutes on
continue
avec la conférence nos monnaies fortes erreurs une conférence
très importante François
l'a dit on a de manière très concrète au coin de nos rues souvent des matérialisations G7 my president a set a range of priorities of which a big part
are
fundamentally
economic this
is not just a simple gathering
this
is the result of months of work and discussion
and
I would like to use this opportunity to thank everyone that's been
involved
in the process of organizing this meeting
here
in Bercy
but
also making the work land
thank
you all
we
are at a critical moment
and
we could feel this
there
was salinity in our discussions
the
level of our discussions match the momentum of this G7
this
meeting
is
about one
delivering
a message about the virtues of dialogue
and
sustainability
but
it's also about the necessity
of
taking actions
and
let me tell you something to those who question the very existence of the G7
the
last few months I've proven them
wrong this
is the seventh
formal
G7 meeting that I was sharing since January in all sorts of
organizations
and distributions of ministers
not
only to address the situation but also to find out long term solutions to build sustainable growth
and
I will say it again
it
is about taking actions
we
did it in March when we released the stocks
of
strategic reserves
and
at that time it had an impact on the price of oil and we were today again gathers to have more actions planned
those
past two days we had demanding conversations but very constructive discussions
with
the G7 finance ministers with the central banker
in
the spirit of cooperation of shared responsibility and in a very good working atmosphere I have to say
I would
like to give a special greeting to my colleague and friend Francois Bilroy-Galot he's not going to like the two seconds I'm going to spend on him but still but not more than two seconds not more than two seconds thank you very much for your outstanding work not only during this G7 but for decades including the last decade at the service of the Bank of France you've played a key role in the French economy in the European economy in the global economy thank you very much dear Francois
from
the beginning of the G7 track we had three main priorities to address global economic challenges
one
to reduce global economic imbalances two
to
work on our dependencies on critical minerals
and
three to prevent international partnership
but
G7
is
also about managing emergencies
thus
dealing with the
ongoing
crisis
and
regarding this specific crisis
we
have asked the IMF and the World Bank to upgrade their support to countries which are hit by the crisis
there
are
we
have the list we know and Ajabanga and Kristalina Dogeva were very clear
if
we don't do anything
50
million people
might
be faced with a food crisis very soon we need to act and I'll get back to that
because
the crisis has a severe impact on
the
most vulnerable ones we need to support them at home
and
abroad
we
had we have a G7 communique you probably have it already and if you don't you're going to get it very soon
but
in addition and for the first time
we
had a special focus communique on global economy and global imbalances which we worked on with other countries
because
this G7 was not just a G7 we had special guests
we
had a session this morning very productive with Brazil, India Kenya and South Korea they contributed to the discussion
we
took major steps to take the right path towards more stability more resilience and a better understanding of our common challenges and mutual interest
and
we just had lunch with an extra set of partners from the Gulf
Qatar the
Emirates and Saudi Arabia
in
which once again
we're
about to discuss the global economy but also be highly impressed
with
their resilience and their adaptability they are on the forefront of the crisis and we command their resilience
now
let's come back to our three main priorities first global imbalances
we
all share a common view
those
imbalances are not sustainable
they're
growing they're persistent they create unprecedented geopolitical political economic and financial tensions they have to stop
on
one side you have China with an excessive surplus that's growing every day on the other side the US with a major deficit and on the third side Europe which doesn't invest enough and this is affecting everyone us included but also everyone else
we
have a record in this story the China surplus is now 1200 billion dollars 20% of global exports
and
with concrete impacts on our daily lives
this
is about jobs this is about industry this is about affordability
this
is about consumption
this
situation undermines our citizens' trust in globalization
in
our very model
and
this is not good news for our country including outside of the G7
we
all share common interest
at
the end of the day it's not about whose fault it is
but
how we
all
together address the situation this is multilateralism at its best
and
on this front we agree to take urgent actions
we
share the need to take domestic measures based on the analysis driven by the IMF and the OECD we need to increase investments we need to improve productivity
we
need to end market distorting policies
those
measures will be tracked by the IMF alongside with relevant international organizations such as the OECD
and
we are going to keep on engaging with other countries in order to provide our leader again with a great assessments and hopefully an action plan
by
the time Avian comes
one
very good example of what is an imbalance what
an
imbalance is is the issue of critical minerals
and
as the G7 we decided to tackle this matter together Canada started tackling this issue in the previous presidency we took it on board we've brought it further global imbalances
mean
global dependencies
critical
materials and rare earth might be an abstract concept
to
some of you
though
they are very very special goods
it's
a very small market
but
a disruption and we've seen it over the last year on that market can cause a huge impact on the economy
one
electric car requires a 150 magnet if we don't have the rare earth we don't have the magnets if we don't have the magnet we don't have the car therefore a supply shock of permanent magnets can put hundreds of factories out of work
this
is why we decided in the G7
to
extend the critical mineral alliance that Canada created this time last year
in
order to
put
together a plan that's going to be very concrete on building stockpiles
on
traceability of value chain on structuring information sharing among us
on
mobilizing multilateral development banks and the private sector to boost investment and to make sure that we provide our leaders with a concrete list of projects that show that we can do it
regarding
dependencies the ongoing war exposed our vulnerabilities
the
conflict in the Middle East is impacting our lives and global economy
on
that matter and Francois will get back to that we benefited from central banks and financial stability board assessment
the
uncertainty is putting growth and inflation at risk and we know in what direction possibly less growth
probably
more inflation
most
vulnerable countries endure increasing energy and food prices fertilizers and supply share now under pressure
there
are
some
people some sectors some countries under stress right now
it's
cropping season in a big part of the world and let us not forget that inflation and fertilizers and food means that some people will have difficulties to buy and or to find foods in the next few weeks and months everyone agrees that the top priority is to take trade flows back
to
normal
we
call for the opening of the Strait of Hormuz we call for lasting resolution to the country
we
will closely monitor its impact with international organization
but
I want to be clear
the
Strait of Hormuz needs to be open
free
of charge
we
know that the longer it takes the tougher it will be for our economy
and
in the meantime you know that we coordinated strategic reserve release in March we also agreed on avoiding non-cooperative actions such as export ban
we
do believe that targeted and temporary measures are the most effective directed to the most affected households and businesses
and
for country in need IMF and multilateral development banks will continue working together
using
the full range of their tools and in line with their respective mandate
we
all agree
that
given the current situation we should try by all means to avoid a food crisis
we
want an action plan to be presented to our leaders
in
Avian this time next month
with
the special attention to fertilizers in order to mitigate the impact of the conflict on agricultural production and food security
time
is of the essence we must
act it
will be a joint G7 finance and development work
which
will also involve relevant international organizations such as the food and agricultural organization the international fund
the
world bank and so on
as
you know support to Ukraine has been an important part of our work over the last four years
it
still is
support
to Ukraine is a major commitment of our presidency and I want to reaffirm our strong and definitive support
this
is why it was important for us to convey finance minister of Ukraine Seri Martenko and the governor of the central bank
and
I want to make
it
very clear
Russia
cannot benefit from the war in the Middle East this is not an option and on this
all
G7 members agree
on
Ukraine we've made huge progress on closing the financing gap we are not there yet
we
are supporting them there's reform conditions we need Ukraine to put their side of the story which is putting reforms in place they are strongly committed to that we are strongly committed
in
maintaining and pursuing sanctions and pressures on Russia
to
prevent them from getting critical revenues and financing the war effort
and
in addition
we
committed to finance the repair of the Chernobyl confinement
ladies
and gentlemen before I give the floor to Francois
I
would just like to reiterate that this was
an
important very important extremely important meeting
addressing
the major economic challenge of the 21st century
I'm
very well aware of just how important this is
my
colleagues
are
very well aware
of
just how important it is
we
know our responsibility on this critical moment
in
the face of geopolitical events
in
the face of economic imbalances
in
the face of our dependencies multilateralism is not an ideal
it's
not an option
it's
the most powerful tool
the
law of the fittest just doesn't work
we're
ending this with a shared commitment to build a more stable a more resilient a fairer global economy
the
road ahead is demanding
but
our will is even stronger
to
this end we've been working since the first day now we need to drive this momentum through to the avian summit
between
the 15th and the 17th of June
thank
you
françois c
'est à toi
merci
monsieur le ministre cher Roland
allow
me one person word in French and some compliments in English
le
mot personnel il se trouve le ministre l'a dit que c'était mon dernier G7
je
peux dire avec le recul de 11 années et donc beaucoup de points de comparaison que le G7 de Paris ce G7 de Paris a été un très bon G7 et ce n'est pas seulement nous qui le disons c'est aussi nos collègues des autres pays qui étaient là
très
bon G7 ce qui m'a frappé c'est parce que les discussions intervenaient évidemment dans un moment difficile mais je crois qu'elles ont eu trois caractéristiques qui font le succès elles ont été sans complaisance et lucides face à la gravité de la situation face aussi au désaccord
elles
ont été libres
entre
responsables de haut niveau et puis elles ont été en confiance
si
je n'ai pas de la substance et seulement pour compliquer ce
que
le ministre a dit sur le résultat
de l
'outcome
may
-je insist sur des délire de ce que je appelle pragmatique multilaterrorisme oui multilaterrorisme est de l'essence mais nous devons être pragmatique dans nos délire comment nous pouvons
nous
améliorer la vie de nos collègues de
nos
citoyens let me quote trois exemples nous avons une
première
c
'est
cyber
and
we had
the
conclusion of a so-called cyber exercise and we decided to strengthen our common work among G7 facing as we all know increasing threats
second
extreme weather events
and
you will see in the communique there are at least two paragraphs on this issue which we discussed at 7
and
in a pragmatic manner again to quote one figure according to private insurance
the
cost of extreme weather events the economic cost
has
been more than 200 billion dollars last year 25
and
this cost has increased in average through the last 30 years of at least 5% each year
so
the issue of insurability
fulfilling
the protection insurance gap is a key issue there are private solutions or private public solutions we decided to go on working on these solutions in the G7 framework
and
third example and I pay tribute to you minister and to your team fight against financial crime
there
is a very important conference organized this afternoon but we had the Gaffi in French or FATF chairwoman coming as you know FATF was created by the G7 in Paris in 1989 it's based in Paris
and
it's also
for
the good of our fellow citizens think of drug traffic drug dealers when we fight against illicit flows we endeavor to improve the life of our fellow citizens
can
I conclude with two issues we discussed more central bankers in two dedicated sessions
I
could have mentioned also and you will see it in the deliverables of the G7 quantum computing or all our work on non-bank financial intermediation this refers to financial stability but I would like to conclude with two issues we discussed more central bankers
first
cross-border payments
and
this is also very practical progress for millions and millions of people around the globe we know that cross-border payments are
too
slow too expensive
at
present
we
decided to accelerate the interlinking of our fast payment system and adopted common values and prepare a practical handbook on that
we
should make cross-border payments definitely quicker cheaper and safer
and
last but not least we discussed obviously among central bankers monetary policy and global economy and here I link it directly to what you said Roland
it
was in a broadened circle with our South Korean Indian and Kenyan colleagues
we
obviously face a diversity of situation let me stress from an economic standpoint that there are two supply shocks happening at global level at present an energy supply shock obviously linked to the conflict and negative for most jurisdictions
but
a positive supply shock on artificial intelligence
and
the combination of these two shocks is
different
from one jurisdiction to another
but
that said
we
discussed obviously the increasing uncertainty increased by the ongoing conflict in the Middle East it heightened risk as you said
to
both growth and inflation
we
discussed heightened volatility on sovereign bonds market
it
has several reasons
the
uncertainty I just mentioned including political uncertainty in some directions
some
questions on fiscal policies
but
let us be clear
fears
of inflation
and
this is for us central banks
so
we reaffirm
strongly our
collective commitment to monetary policy ensuring price stability and anchoring inflation a target for the medium term
and
this is a strong collective commitment
you
will see it in the communique monetary policy will remain data dependent
and
we are closely monitoring what we call the second round effect
on
core inflation on inflation expectations and on economic activity
we
are ready to act as much as necessary the precise answer clearly belongs to each central bank and each jurisdiction
and I
will stop there and we'll answer your questions
can
you tell you
évidemment les questions en français sont les bienvenues
et on
répondra en français
george de politico du coup je vais poser ma question en français vous avez évoqué monsieur le ministre des discussions franches directes et parfois difficiles je vais demander si les réunions d'hier d'aujourd'hui ont été l'occasion de rappeler pour les européens le fait que la guerre au moyen orient doit se terminer au plus vite et de parler du fait que les conséquences économiques se feront sentir davantage en Europe merci beaucoup
je
pense qu'il n
'y a
pas que les européens qui pensent ça nous pensons tous qu'elle doit se terminer au plus vite
on
est engagé dans un conflit difficile nous sommes évidemment tous convaincus que l'Iran ne doit pas avoir accès à la bombe atomique que les enjeux balistiques doivent être traités et tout ça je dirais je le laisse à mes collègues qui s'occupent de géopolitique mais nous sommes tous évidemment conscients que le plus tôt on ouvrira le détroit d'Harmouz le plus tôt ce nœud économique d'un conflit géopolitique sera tranché le mieux on se portera tous mais je l'ai dit je vous le répète ça ne se fera pas à n'importe quel prix notamment au prix de je ne sais quel ph qui contreviendrait de manière flagrante au droit international voilà on fait face à une réalité on est un monde avec lequel on vit et on fait tout pour en collectif
s
'assurer que les conséquences économiques de ce choc sont les plus limitées possibles et notamment j'insiste là-dessus
pour
les plus vulnérables parce que ça a été notre focus depuis deux jours et ça le reste
bonjour monsieur le ministre juste une question en anglais Ross Cullen from Channel News Asia you said that you were aligned
with
your G7 colleagues that Russia must not benefit from the war in Ukraine the United States has announced another waiver of sanctions on Russian oil do you agree with that extension of the waiver if you're aligned with your G7 colleagues
and
separately also on your discussions with Mr Besant
did
you call again with him for the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz and did you get any sense from the United States delegation
of
their next moves in terms of the conflict
thank
you well we all agree Scott Besant included that we should open the Strait of Hormuz as soon as possible not at any cost and suddenly free of charge you know he's given us a bit of an update on the state of the conversation
one
of the beauties and I know it's frustrating for some of you guys of the G7 and that not everyone we say necessarily comes out of the room I was talking to someone who was involved in G7 a long time ago
who
said to me that at first G7 was a meeting behind closed doors with seven leaders no staff no agenda no note taking I mean we've gone much further and we're now having a press conference exchanging with you on what we've said and the outcome we have a communique there's tons of work being done there's still conversations that are not going to come out because this is the beauty of the exercise
on
the waiver on Russian oil this is certainly not a G7 decision so I'll let you ask Scott Besson why and how they decided to do that but I can tell you that the willingness of the G7 to keep on putting pressure
on
sanctions on Russia was unanimous and that nobody wants Russia to have a windfall profit of what's going on in the Middle East
Lee
Thomas from Reuters you mentioned domestic measures to address the unsustainable macro imbalances what precisely do you have in mind and how can
having
the IMF and the OECD track those make a difference and then secondly on the critical materials have you sort of narrowed the options on the common toolbox what are the concrete steps that you're going to take going forward
so
on the
on
the global imbalances
I
think we all we all understand that
it's
not about finger pointing it's not about telling you should do this or you should do that and suddenly we all reply to our parliaments I don't want to go to the French parliament telling them that the G6 has told the 7th number which is me to do this and that
the
idea and I know it's a conversation that requires a change of mindset
not
a mindset that thinks that in every conversation there's a winner and there's a loser but that we can have conversations together where together we can win-win and that's what the IMF analysis and that's what Hélène Rennes Economies Group has brought to the table as well
which
is at the end of the day if each of us does the right thing we'll all together be better off
I
said very simply Europe needs more investment
I
said very simply China needs more consumption and I said very simply the US deficit needs to go down well guess what when you talk to these people every one of us says that we should do it
the
question is
can
we have a way of doing this together coordinating ourselves doing it simultaneously because everyone around the table admits
that
if we do it together it's going to be more efficient and that requires a conversation that hasn't happened yet there's been lots of bilateral discussions the president would like to my president Emmanuel Macron would like to engage with all the actors including China that wasn't here today but also Brazil India some countries of Africa Europe the US and others Canada and others to make sure that together we can find a road map
and
hopefully this is going to happen between now and Evian we're not there yet but we had great productive conversation on this on the raw material and critical mineral acts
the
way I would describe the Lego we're trying to build
is
threefold
one the
International Energy Agency was created in the 70s faced with at that time a big old shock
that
made us realize that we didn't have the tools to follow the market to understand where inventories were to understand where vulnerabilities were so we want to be able together
as
a G7 to follow that market
we
probably call that a task force the idea is not to build a new agency the IEA is doing a great job the OECD is doing a great job but we want to be able to monitor the market to understand them to understand where stockpilings are where stockpilings are missing to make sure that we are able as a group to say ok the market's ok no need
to
act or the market's not ok and there's one of those markets where we need to act
two
there's discussions on agreements that could take different ways that are taking place at the initiative of the US
that
could look at different ways and tools of addressing market inefficiencies there could be price flaws there could be tariffs there could be quotas and this is an ongoing work that hasn't completely landed yet
but
three I think most importantly we need to show that together we are able to change the conversation make things happen on the ground that are changing the balance of power for those rare earths that are becoming critical to electrification
two
weeks ago I was in the southwest of France
looking
at a factory that's been financed by US Japan and France that's going to recycle and produce 10% of the rare earth we need in the world
in
Pau in LAC in the southwest of France
and
those 10% are going to be half of taken
by
Japan this is again what you call Francois multilateralism on the ground pragmatic multilateralism we are showing the ground that we can
produce
alternatives to a market for which it has to be acknowledged we have a monopoly today from one country
if
I may add one word on the part of the question referring to domestic measures if I got it right there was unanimous agreement around the table that such measures should be you remember the famous triple T targeted temporary and tailored unanimous agreement can I add two practical observations
first
so far and the IMF has an IMF tracker measures taken by jurisdictions I don't say they all perfectly comply with the three T's
but
such measures are much more limited than after 22 and rightly so
if
you look at the quantum compared to GDP
and
may I add Mr. Minister a remark for France as a very independent central banker
so
far I think the sober answer by the French authorities is welcome in this period because we all know if we don't respect the triple T it creates fiscal problem obviously but it was reminded yesterday it increases oil demand globally
and
this is exactly the contrary of what we should do
thank
you so much Susumu Sakamoto from the Asahi Shimbun Japanese media regarding the food security have you discussed any specific measures including sit in the corridor for fertilizer yeah
I
mean as you know that was one of the US IDs that was brought forward at the G20 in Washington about a month ago this is one of the options we could look at
we
have to make sure that
the
most vulnerable countries it's cropping season there cannot be durably affected by the crisis on fertilizers so this could be one of the options there's other options in terms of diversification of supply and maybe stock depiling that could happen as well but we suddenly are willing to do whatever it takes to make sure that no food crisis is coming after this yeah
oui Romain
Tardino pour le journal spécial ct bonjour monsieur le ministre bonjour monsieur le gouverneur j'ai une question pour vous en fait
il
y a deux semaines vous disiez que
le
kérosène n'allait pas être à risque le conflit s'enlise
qu
'en est-il aujourd'hui
j
'ai la même réponse qu'il
y a
deux semaines heureusement on suit les choses évidemment de très près mais quand on regarde le marché du kérosène en Europe en France singulièrement puisque c'était
la
réponse à une question qui m'était posée il
y
a 15 jours à l'occasion de
l
'évocation de la saison touristique de cet été
le
fait qu'on ait augmenté nos capacités de raffinage le fait qu'on ait diversifié nos approvisionnements notamment en provenance des Etats-Unis qui eux-mêmes ont augmenté leur production de kérosène fait que nous sommes confiants sur notre capacité collective cet été à s'assurer qu'ils avions puissent voler en France de France et vers la France
Bonjour
Mathilde Odémi France Inter deux questions pour chacun d'entre vous Monsieur le ministre je veux bien que vous repreniez en quoi cette réunion du G7 va permettre de temporiser les conséquences de la crise actuelle pour nos sociétés
et
Monsieur le Gouverneur est-ce que le fait d'avoir vu tous les banquiers centraux vous a permis d'arrêter une décision ou des avancées en vue des réunions futures de juin sachant que tout le monde avait décidé de temporiser
et
puisque vous parliez d'indépendance tout à l'heure de la banque centrale petite question franco-française puisque les députés socialistes ont choisi de ne pas soutenir Emmanuel Moulin en commission est-ce que vous pensiez que votre succession serait si compliquée merci
tu
veux commencer
oh
non honneur au ministre
bon
face à une crise globale le G7 a une fois de plus montré son
intérêt à
la fois je dirais entre nous sept
mais
aussi au-delà
les
discussions qu'on a eues avec nos amis kenyans nos amis indiens nos amis brésiliens puis avec nos amis du golf
au
déjeuner nous ont montré
que la
meilleure manière de gérer cette crise c'était de se concentrer sur les plus vulnérables
des
mesures à taue unique qui concernerait tout le monde y compris ceux qui n'en ont pas besoin que ce soit des secteurs que ce soit des ménages
que
ce soit des pays serait évidemment une mauvaise manière de répondre à cette crise pourquoi
? c
'est ce qu'on appelle une crise d'offres un choc d'offres
on
manque du jour au lendemain d'une partie du pétrole mondial
et
si on répond globalement en subventionnant massivement la demande on va se retrouver avec un déséquilibre encore plus marqué et donc ce consensus autour de notre capacité collective à identifier les plus vulnérables
et
à
diriger
nos mesures vers eux c'était évidemment un des éléments concrets de ce G7
mais
de surtout
nous
avons avec le FMI avec la Banque mondiale identifié ces plus vulnérables
et
nous avons en tête un certain nombre de pays
aux
côtés duquel il va falloir être de manière très concrète avec des instruments qui existent
au
service du Fonds monétaire et de la Banque mondiale pour les aider on a des pays aujourd'hui l'Irak par exemple
qui
est un pays qui dépend cruellement de ces ressources de pétrole et qui aujourd'hui est évidemment incapable de les exporter
nous
devons focaliser nos mesures sur le soutien à l'Irak évidemment le Fonds monétaire et la Banque mondiale travaillent donc de manière très concrète aujourd'hui au delà des enjeux de sécurité alimentaire dont je parlais tout à l'heure ce G7 nous a permis de prioriser
de
séquencer et de focaliser notre aide sur ceux qui en ont le plus besoin
sur vos deux questions je vais commencer par la dernière vous n'allez pas être surpris par ma réponse concernant la nomination de mon successeur il y a une procédure qui est prévue par la constitution et les lois de la république elle se déroule laissons-la se dérouler et effectivement il
y
a les auditions parlementaires demain la Banque de France n'a fait aucun commentaire ni votre serviteur depuis le début de cette procédure elle n'a pas à en faire
alors
en ce qui concerne la politique monétaire et les rencontres entre banquiers centraux nous n'avons pas eu je l'ai dit tout à l'heure de discussion pays par pays ou région par région concernant la zone euro
alors
il se trouve que je ne participerai pas étant parti à la prochaine réunion du conseil des gouverneurs de début juin à laquelle vous faites allusion
je
veux simplement redire deux choses
la
première c'est la volonté générale je le rappelais tout à l'heure d'agir dans toute la mesure nécessaire
pour
ramener l'inflation à sa cible de 2% dans notre cas
à
moyen terme
ça
veut dire agir et non pas sur réagir ça veut dire disposer des informations en ce qui concerne les effets de second tour l'inflation sous-jacente
les
anticipations d'inflation notamment des ménages et des entreprises les salaires
mais
nous serons prêts à agir comme il le faut parce que nous avons une obligation de résultat les ménages et les entreprises français et européens peuvent nous faire confiance pour assurer cet ancrage de l'inflation à 2% je le redis très fortement
l
'autre chose si vous me permettez une remarque un peu plus spécifique sur le débat européen mais je n'irai pas plus loin
je
crois qu'il ne faut pas focaliser le débat seulement sur le calendrier
je
me permettez de le dire avec un sourire quand on était au mois d'avril c'était qu'est-ce que vous allez faire 20 avril maintenant c'est qu'est-ce que vous allez faire début juin
je
vais le dire en anglais parce que ça s'y prête mieux the main question is not about the date it's about data
pas
un calendrier mais des données
j
'ai dit à l'instant quels sont les éléments de notre fonction de réaction liés au second tour après ça sera au conseil des gouverneurs les 9 et 10 juin de décider selon ces données
on
prend une dernière question peut-être
oui dernière
question
allez
-y bonjour merci beaucoup Marie Viennot France Culture est-ce que vous avez parlé puisque vous nous dites que tout le monde était d'accord pour dire que le multilatéralisme vraiment c'était la solution est-ce que vous avez parlé du commerce et notamment de la politique américaine qui n'a pas été très coopérative l'année dernière est
-ce
que c'est un sujet qui a été abordé et quelles solutions vous y voyez et quand vous nous parlez d'actions concrètes vraiment il faut qu'on
we
need to take action tout ce que vous dites etc. donc là vous nous donnez l'exemple par exemple de l'aide du FMI et des pays qui pourraient mais est
-ce
que vous avez d'autres exemples à nous donner puisque vous parlez notamment des engrais que c'est la saison où justement on en a besoin et est-ce qu'il faut attendre le G7 déviant en juin pour avoir vraiment la traduction concrète
de
ce que vous nous dites où déjà aujourd'hui il y
a
des choses qui ont été décidées ou alors en fait ce que vous nous amorcez tout ce qui va être concret en juin merci
peut-être pour répondre de manière un peu simpliste peut-être à votre question l'idée de ce G7 finance c'était un peu de faire la passe décisive à nos leaders c'est vrai qu'un certain nombre de sujets importants sont en passe d'être finalisés mais que parce que le président de la république a souhaité que ces sujets soient abordés au plus haut niveau
parce
qu'ils concernent des sujets extrêmement importants parce qu'ils concernent aussi l'avenir du monde nous avons je pense pas mal avancé le travail de manière à ce que nos leaders puissent je l'espère en tout cas le conclure sur des sujets aussi importants très concrètement que les minerais critiques
que
le règlement des déséquilibres globaux qui peut parfois paraître un peu théorique
mais
si la France a perdu des dizaines d'usines ces 30 dernières années c'est du fait de ces déséquilibres globaux si aujourd'hui les marchés financiers
je
ne
veux
pas dire qu
'ils
nous inquiètent mais en tout cas ils nous occupent et parfois même ils nous préoccupent c'est en grande partie du fait de ces déséquilibres globaux donc il est important évidemment d'avoir tout ça en tête et les leaders trancheront
sur
le commerce international
bon
d'abord je ne
suis
pas sûr que tout le monde considère que le multilatéralisme soit la solution à tout ça c'est ma conviction je pense que cette réunion a montré qu'effectivement sur tous les sujets au fond
plus
on parle mieux on est et je pense y compris d'ailleurs les Etats-Unis qui nous ont par exemple remercié quand on a libéré les stocks stratégiques au mois de mars de manière collective reconnaissent quand même que parfois ça peut aider est-ce que ça veut dire qu'on est d'accord sur tout ?
sur
le commerce international c'est une des questions que vous évoquez évidemment nous ne sommes pas d'accord et dès qu'il faut rappeler à Scott Bessen que je ne
suis
pas d'accord avec lui sur l'utilisation des tarifs dans la correction des équipes globaux je vous rassure
je
le fais
mais
une fois qu'on essaie des accords notre capacité collective à trouver des lieux où on peut se mettre d'accord où on peut avancer ensemble on peut même parfois essayer de se convaincre qu'on peut avancer ensemble sont évidemment les bienvenus c'est pour ça que le G7 avait été créé dans les années 70 à un moment d'un autre
choc
pétrolier à un moment d'un autre conflit mondial on continue à le faire et je suis très heureux de voir que au fond ça fonctionne
merci
beaucoup merci à toutes on continue avec la la conférence nos monnaies fort terreur une conférence très importante François l'a dit on a de manière très concrète au coin de nos rues souvent des matérialisations
my
president a set a range of priorities of which a big part
are
fundamentally economic
this
is not just a simple gathering
this
is the result of months of work and discussion and I would like to use this opportunity to thank everyone that's been involved in the process of organising
this
meeting here in Bercy
but
also making the work land thank you all
we
are at a critical moment
and
we could feel this
there
was salinity
in
our discussions
the
level of our discussions matched the momentum of this G7
this
meeting
is
about one
delivering
a message about the virtues of dialogue
and
sustainability
but
it's also about the necessity
of
taking actions
and
let me tell you something to those who questioned the very existence of the G7
the
last few months have proven them wrong
this
is the seventh formal G7 meeting that I was sharing since January in all sorts of organisations and distributions of ministers
not
only to address the situation but also to find out long term solutions to build sustainable growth
and
I will say it again
it
is about taking actions
we
did it in March when we released the stocks
of
strategic reserves
and
at that time it had an impact on the price of oil and we were today again gathered to have more actions planned
those
past two days we had demanding conversations but very constructive discussions
with
the G7 finance ministers with the central banker
in
the spirit of cooperation of shared responsibility and in a very good working atmosphere I have to say
I
would like to give a special greeting
to
my colleague and friend Francois Bilroy-Galot he is not going to like the two seconds I am going to spend on him but still but not more than two seconds not more than two seconds thank you very much for your outstanding work not only during this G7 but for decades including the last decade at the service of the Bank of France you have played a key role in the French economy in the European economy in the global economy thank you very much dear Francois from the beginning of the G7 track we had three main priorities to address global economic challenges
one
to reduce global economic imbalances two to work on our dependencies on critical minerals
and
three to revamp international partnership
but
G7 is also about managing emergencies
thus
dealing with the ongoing crisis
and
regarding this specific crisis
we
have asked the IMF and the World Bank to upgrade their support to countries which are hit by the crisis
there
are
we
have the list
we
know and Ajabanga and Kristalina Dorjeva were very clear
if
we don't do anything 50 million people
might
be faced with a food crisis very soon we need to act and I'll get back to that
because
the crisis has a severe impact on the most vulnerable ones we need to support them at home and abroad
we
had we have a G7 communique you probably have it already and if you don't you're going to get it very soon
but
in addition and for the first time
we
had a special focus communique on global economy and global imbalances which we worked on with other countries
because
this G7 was not just a G7 we had special guests
we
had a session this morning very productive with Brazil India
Kenya
and South Korea they contributed to the discussion
we
took major steps to take the right path towards more stability more resilience and a better understanding of our common challenges and mutual interest
and
we just had lunch with an extra set of partners from the Gulf
Qatar the
Emirates and Saudi Arabia in which once again
we're
about to discuss the global economy but also be highly impressed
with
their resilience and their adaptability
they
are on the forefront of the crisis and we command their resilience
now
let's come back to our three main priorities first global imbalances
we
all share a common view
those
imbalances are not sustainable
they're
growing they're persistent they create unprecedented geopolitical political economic and financial tensions they have to stop
on
one side you have China with an excessive surplus that's growing every day on the other side the US with a major deficit and on the third side Europe which doesn't invest enough and this is affecting everyone us included but also everyone else
we
have a record in this story the China surplus is now 1200 billion dollars 20% of global exports
and
with concrete impacts on our daily lives
this
is about jobs this is about industry this is about affordability this is about consumption
this
situation undermines our citizens' trust in globalization in our very model
and
this is not good news for our country including outside of the G7
we
all share common interest
at
the end of the day it's not about whose fault it is but how we
all
together address the situation this is multilateralism at its best
and
on this front we agree to take urgent actions
we
share the need to take domestic measures based on the analysis driven by the IMF and the OECD we need to increase investments we need to improve productivity we need to end market distorting policies
those
measures will be tracked by the IMF alongside with relevant international organizations such as the OECD
and
we are going to keep on engaging with other countries in order to provide our leader again with a great assessment and hopefully an action plan
by
the time Avian comes
one
very good example of what is an imbalance what
an
imbalance
is
is the issue of critical minerals
and
as the G7 we decided to tackle this matter together Canada started tackling this issue in the previous presidency we took it on board we've brought it further global imbalances
mean
global dependencies
critical
materials and rare earth might be an abstract concept
to
some of you
though
they are very very special goods it's a very
– Sous-titrage FR 2021
Roland Lescure