Sebastien Martin - REMOTE VIEWING - ALIENS - SECRET SPACE PROGRAM

Perhaps

we need some outside universal threat

to

make us recognize this common bound.

I

occasionally think how quickly

our

differences worldwide

would

vanish

if

we were facing an alien threat

from

outside this world.

It

is the week before Christmas. Have you been naughty or nice to kick off this week? We'll find out. If Santa Claus comes to your house

and

when we broadcast on Christmas Eve, Santa Claus may be here. Just saying. He may join us for the show. Sebastian Martin is our guest tonight. He's a beautiful friend of mine. I love this man dearly and so honored to call him as a friend. We're going to be talking remote viewing, alien secret space program, and the cause and effects that surround it. It's going to be a great show tonight. I want to give, before I do the quick update here on the roll call, I want to give you a quick update on the show, okay? We're going straight through here, all right? There is no breaks. We are going to be broadcasting on Christmas Eve. Lynn Wallington will be here both Saturday and Sunday.

However, the after-hours show is taking the weekend off, so they will be spending time with their families this weekend. That's quite okay. It's Christmas weekend. But the main thing is we got you covered right through the holidays. So, those wondering what you're going to do while we're all celebrating Christmas and everything, don't worry. We got you covered. All right. Race fan in the gold medal position tonight. Acreon takes home a rare silver with Nikola taking home the bronzed medal tonight. Mennonite Abe, Guilherme, good to see you both. Black Dragon, Jeffrey Deruin, the gorgeous Cosmic Fleur. How are you? And thank you for coming on in. Jack Clark, thanks for joining us.

Eddie Haskell, good to see you. Lovely Lynn LeBlanc is back. She'll be signing autographs after the show. Line up to the left of the studio, if you don't mind. To the left of the studio. All right. Let's move on here with Roll Call here as we continue on. John Aldrin, thank you so much for kicking off the Super Chat tonight. Really do appreciate it. Thank you so much. Lovely Laura Elizabeth has returned. Thank you for joining us. We appreciate you. Papa Willie is here as well. Papa Willie, thank you for joining us. And he'll be signing autographs after the show as well. Do not make eye contact. He will not sign your poster boards if you make eye contact.

He'll be on the right of the studio, if you don't mind. Nightmare, how are you, buddy? Dirty Filth with his boils and ghouls, witches and warlocks. How are you, buddy? Nice to have you here as we continue on with Roll Call tonight. And who else do we have? Oh, look who it is. It's awesome, Ann Palmer, everyone. And the gorgeous Ozzie Ange. Nice to see you. Mark Ratabacher, Luscious Jewels, Chillin' Villain. Nice to see you all. Thank you for joining us

as

we continue on with Roll Call. Guilherme, thank you so much for that awesome Super Chat. Really do appreciate it. Nice beard, by the way. And thank you for the chat earlier on Facebook. Really appreciated that as well, my friend. Continuing on, Chillin' Villain. Good to see you. Rooted in gorgeous Sacredest. Thank you for joining us. Where is time going here? My goodness. I'm not even close to being done Roll Call here. Gorgeous Marie, how are you? Thanks for joining us. And we continue to scroll on down. Gorgeous Jenny. Todd Purden, advocate for UFO Disclosure. How are you? Awesome, Arlene. And who else do we have here? If I miss you, I apologize. Hey, Wes, how you doing? Double Tim. Enzo.

Gorgeous. Steph Dickey. Nice to have you all here. And Bellenium, nice to see you. Linda, thank you so much for that awesome super chat. Love you, my dear. Thank you so much for your support over this year. Brown Dot Flop, how are you, man? Nice to have you here. And Spooky Morales and his trumpet are back. And who else do we have? Let's see here. Oh, my goodness. It's gorgeous Pam McSee. There she is, everyone. And scrolling on down. My goodness, I'm running out of time. I hate it when this happens. I really do. Vanner Smith, good to see you. We are 20 seconds away. Crismo, Johnny Music, Ibarata, and who else do we have? I'm starting to panic. 405er, nice to see you.

And Blue Nose Witch, nice to have you here. Thank you for joining us as we continue on with Roll Call. We got 15 seconds. Can we get to go? Gorgeous. Melissa Nicole, thank you for taking the time. And you know what? That's about it. Hey, Witchy, Tripleack, nice to have you here. Eva. Rock and roll, people. Horns up. Let's rock.

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by Chive Charities. Help make the world 10% happier by visiting Chive Charities today. You can find them on our website. We've got a great show for you tonight. Sebastian Martin is a Canadian entrepreneur who is also an experiencer of extraterrestrial contact. This phenomena eventually led Sebastian to leave the corporate world to find his own spiritual path, which has led him to meeting some very influential people revolved around remote viewing and the secret space program. How it all ties into what's going on today, this is what we are going to find out. My good man, Sebastian Martin. How you doing, my friend? Merry Christmas to you.

Yeah,

Merry Christmas to you, Dave, and thank you for having me on your show again.

It's always a pleasure. And you know what? My whole goal this year, my friend, was to get over to Vancouver Island to actually spend some time with you, except during the summer we had the forest fires got stuck up here. And then, all of a sudden in the fall, we get all the flooding in the lower mainland of British Columbia, it shuts down the highways again. Like, 2022 has to be our year. And I'm sure it will be.

I

hope so.

I

hope so. I

hope so.

Because you are a guy, and, you know, as we get on to the show, you are a guy who literally can make things happen.

Yeah,

I guess I can in many ways. But,

you

know, I think what I found very interesting about this year is how transparent things seem to be happening more to me and to others. Like, I think everybody today is kind of speaking their own truth

in

many ways, a bit more direct about how they feel. For me, my experience was 10 years ago when I had my encounter with Zool in my living room and coming from the business world and to be, you know, honest about my experience and sharing it to my family and my close friends.

And

I have lost friends because of my experiences, they could not relate to what I've experienced, they believed at the time that I was crazy. Seeing an alien in your living room doesn't happen every day, but especially in my world, but, you know, business.

And

I'm seeing a lot of parallels with what's happening today in our society and around the world where people are now awakening to their own truth and being honest with themselves. You know, good or bad, it doesn't really matter at the end. It's just a matter of being honest with

what's

going to happen in the future. At the end of the day, we're aligning ourselves with our true path of enlightenment that I believe is also in line with what I've envisioned many years ago through remote viewing and through my own experiences with aliens.

And

that's to do with the future races that we know of today, like I'm talking about the Pleiadians and the Syrians and the Greys and all these different types of races that we know of today.

And

I also believe that those races are coming from Earth to begin with and will be existing down the line in the future. And since we don't live in a linear time, we're going to be seeing those beings coming back to Earth and witnessing where was the beginning of their races when they first started evolving to where they are today

or

how they will be in the future. And I'm talking about maybe like 100,000 years from now.

So

this is a very interesting time, in my opinion, for living in this chaotic time where we are seeing a lot of insanity going on around the world

and

nonsense, to be honest. But at the same time, people are also awakening to their own

selves.

And that's super important to me because

it

doesn't really matter at the end how,

you

know, negative the situation will be with people. Like if they feel that they have to erase some of their friends or close friends because of their belief systems, that's OK. At the end of the day, what's happening is if you are true to yourself and you can leave with the close people that you have in your surroundings, then you're already becoming more honest and you are shedding away the hypocrisy that has been going on for many, you know, centuries, basically with people. And now it's becoming clearer to me that the people that are moving towards a path that would be more true to how the future was supposed to be designed.

And I think it's an interesting path to me because two to three years ago, before, you know, COVID,

I

thought that I was not on the right timeline.

I

truly believe that there was something wrong with what we were experiencing at the time,

because

I knew about my experiences from 10 years ago, and I could not see how, you know, we could be

as

we are today, those races or those humans linked to these alien races in the future. I could not see the parallel. Now I do. Now I truly do. And I think it's definitely more transparent to me at this point.

You

know, what's funny? Is you and I started at the exact same time, or nearly exact same time 10 years ago, because last week, a week ago tonight,

was

the first time that I had experienced

anything

supernatural when I saw the angel of death in my mother's eyes. And then it kicked off much like yours did, where it just took off like a shot in the dark, you know, where you can't control it. All of a sudden you start getting hit with all of these little energetic waves and consciousness waves and psychic waves and, you know, waves of aliens and ghosts and everything that goes along with the supernatural phenomena. I mean, how did you ever catch your breath

with

everything that was going on, Sebastian? I mean, let me add to that, because at that time, what a lot of people don't know, you were running a highly successful world business in the honey industry. You were someone who was very corporate, you were very much, you know, living a very rich and high lifestyle that you'd worked very hard for. And then all of a sudden, boom, you hit that brick wall of the supernatural.

Yeah, that's true. Well, like 10 years ago, I was not into the consciousness movement, you know, I truly believe that, you know, people who were speaking like the light language and were, you know, channeling and all of these people, I really believe that they were, you know, swimming, swimming with dolphins, you know, they, they were not my type of people.

Um,

I could not relate to any of these people and, um, I was just in the world of business, um,

it

was just about the money and trying to make, you

know,

the next million and, uh, it, and it, it, it, it,

it

did hit me really, really hard, uh, overnight. And

at

the same time, I had 10 years of evolution with this and it was a good thing for me because I had time to adapt to what we are living today. And, uh, it prepared me to, uh, leave my truth and to be okay with it and not be living in fear because

you

have to realize that when I first had my encounters, um, many of the people who have had those experiences would have been scared

and

like frightened to death, you know, over time for the stuff I've,

I've

gone through, but instead of living in fear, I decided to embrace it and trying to understand it. So using my rational mind to make sense of something that was not as rational,

but

at the same time, I was trying to put the pieces together

to,

uh, understand if that was fitting with my energy or my, my life. And, um, yeah, I mean, to me, it's been an excellent journey and a very timely because if, um, I had, or I didn't have those expenses today, I would have been a very different man for sure.

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the I definitely feel more, you know, open. I would have not have met the people like yourself in my path over the years. And I would have been a very different person. And

I

could have earned more money, maybe, I'm sure. But the fact is that at the same time, it happened when at the time my wife was becoming sick or she was about to become sick. And

when

I saw the business in 2014, it was like three years after my encounters and everything was almost designed to get there. And I was very surprised by the chronology of these events because at the same time, I

basically,

you know, like I said to you, I suffered from losing friends over my experiences. I ended up to be divorced, like basically over this time. But everything was good because, you know, my wife at the time spoke her truth based on

how

I experienced mine and shared it with others. So it was not all bad. I'm glad that she followed that truth and we are still friends today. We have great kids together and it's been a wonderful journey. But I also believe it was meant to be. And so today I have no regrets. And no, I would not change my life or going back to where I was because what I believe I was living at the time was more of a lie because it was not true. It was just making the next dollar and to what purpose. There was no real end goal.

You

know, money is not the end goal and it won't make you happy forever. It's a means to an end.

But

the

journey

I've been on and the stuff that I've discovered to do remote viewing and embracing my visions, opening up my mind to the multiverse and seeing beyond this reality has really transformed my life for the better. And

I'm

still learning, like it's never ending. So I don't have those regrets and I still have a great deal to learn. I feel very humbled by what I've experienced. I definitely don't feel like I would like to relieve some of the experiences I had.

But

at the same time, I'm grateful for them.

See,

I'm different than you.

I

would go back to my old life in a heartbeat.

My

happily boring life.

I

mean, don't get me wrong. I love the people from our audience. I love what we've created here with SOR. I love the fact that I've been fortunate enough to meet people like you and gain a ton of new friends that I never had. But that old lifestyle, you know, being close to my family and being close to my friends and the core group that we had, you know, it just

there

was something very comforting about that. This has been very uncomfortable because you never know what's going to happen, you know, and you never know where it's coming from. And part of my issue is with the phenomena, not the people, the phenomena is they seem to take a lot away,

but

they don't tell you what they're

switching

it with.

Yeah, so I

know exactly what you mean. And I think that's what I've experienced is also the delusion of or being disillusioned by the consciousness movement itself for having so many false prophets, you know, in the field that could really be extremely demeaning and make you look back

to

the old life. Thinking, you know, why have I, you know, decided to embark on this journey knowing there are so many people who are in it for the ego and to make a quick buck on the gullibility of the people. And I think that's really wrong, but I've been always aware of that. So it never really affected me. And I always spoke my truth and I never really cared about, you know, fame or, you know, fortune through this movement. It's never been my goal, so I don't care. For me, as long as the message was true and I was able to, you know, communicate with some of the people who were interested in my journey and share theirs with me, I've learned a great deal from that.

So I think, you know, the old life was just

more

comfortable, like you said, but it doesn't mean that it was the,

you

know,

the best

path. It was just the easiest one.

Very true. Very true. Sebastian Martin is our guest tonight on Spaced Out Radio. And later on in the show, we're going to get to some remote viewing after the break at the bottom of the hour. But for you, Sebastian, as you embark on this journey, you've seen it change quite a bit. I mean, it went from ET contact to learning that you could remote view and learning things that you didn't even know existed. Does anything surprise you anymore in this field?

Not

really, no.

I

mean, you know, it seems like all the hype behind the UFO disclosure and we're going to be learning about this, we're going to be, you know, seeing some UFO footages and all of that to me is just, it's just entertainment. But the reality of it is still hidden from the public

and

trying to have some of the information trickling down in the media once in a while has been keeping people on their toes, hoping for more news down the line. But I'm always afraid of, again, having that message transformed or used by our governments to deceive the people some more, trying to control the narrative for saying,

you

know, now we kind of exhausted all of our, you know, basically tools that we had to deceive you. We're going to be now reaching out to something else, and I think right now what I'm seeing

is all

this disclosure or partial disclosure is actually designed to offload humanity to various planets, including Mars. I think that's going

to

be the next step. And as we're seeing today, the compliance that has been happening and the coercion that has been applied will be useful to the same people will be sending out a different message to say, now we need you to go to Mars because we can no longer stay on the planet. We already have seen, we already

have seen, and

you've seen it too, being in BC that the heat wave that we had in June, you know, killing off 700 people in a few days has been one of those events triggered, most likely by HAARP. So have you noticed as well that during the summertime, we barely had any chemtrails in the sky? It was pretty bare and very hot, and we've seen major changes over time, like through, you know, in various countries, and we can put it global warming and climate change, but at the same time, we know that the planet is cooling off every year. Like it's, we, we already have, we've lost like one degree Celsius in the last 100, you know, 100 years on the planet, because the earth is currently moving away from the sun

on

the 26,000 year rotation. So we, we are going

to

be seeing some changes to do with the climate that we've,

uh,

impacted through, um, pollution and so on.

And

that's going to be one of the excuses for the officials to tell us that, you know, our lives will be better served on the different planet. And people will be more willing to go because as more disclosure is happening online, people are going

to

be, you know, more used to the news and to be more okay with that,

to

embrace a life somewhere else.

And,

and that is a big subject

right

there is whether or not we deserve this planet only to go ruin another one.

I

mean, that's, I think that's the fear. I mean, the amount, I mean, you look, we're, we're not even playing nicely in space with all the space junk that's, that's up there and,

and,

you know, currently causing issues that we can barely get a rocket into space without potentially hitting something. I mean, it is a, there's a lot of ridiculous out there, Sebastian, when it comes to, to how we treat things, whether it's, you

know,

the planet, the animals, people in general, we're, we're not a kind species. That's for sure.

True,

but at the same time, we're also an evolving species. And as we'll be seeing down the line, our species would be bound to branch out to more species as evolution has already showed us in the past, like through various homo, you know, sapiens that we we've seen. We've seen major changes from the neon vessels to the commandion to whatever, like we're going to be seeing major changes. And I think we are in that period right now where we're going

to

be seeing those major changes. So through now we have, you know, the mRNA in the, in the mainstream, we're going to be seeing, you know, biogenetics having a major impact on society around the world. And through, you know, major breakthrough in science, in terms of, they're going to be coming up with new solutions in like destroying cancer and trying to find solutions that would be potentially unstable at the beginning, but we become more stable as time goes by. So I,

I'm

not worried so much about the present because it's still a learning experience, but I do believe that we'll be evolving to learn and to be more compassionate. And I think we will change to that extent, to that extent, I do have that faith.

I

don't see humanity evolving to something that would be truly evil. You know, if we learn from our ways and how we, we lived our lives on this planet, we're going

to

be able to do better as we move forward. I don't see us as doing or repeating history. I hope not. I mean, we have in the past, for sure, we have repeated history. If you look at the ancient aliens, you know, series, you can see based on what happened in ancient civilizations that we have destroyed civilizations based on potential nuclear technology too. And we're repeating that again. It doesn't mean that the nuclear energy is going to be the end of us, you know, in the future. Even if I think a lot of the greys have shown that as a potential scenario to a few abductees, I think you're aware of that,

but

I don't see that as our fate. I really believe that we are going to be evolving to a greater species or greater species in the plural tense, because we're going to be seeing a diversion in races, which is why I mentioned at the beginning that when you have Pleiadians and Syrians and greys, you know, they're not, they're not the same,

but

they evolved over time. And some people might say that I might be wrong in believing that, you

know,

they are coming from the human race to begin with, but they are

obviously

humanoids like us. And they definitely have some roots and origins somewhere. And all along, since the beginning, I always believed and saw with my own consciousness that those races were coming from humanity to begin with.

Well, I'm

going to get you to hold on right there,

because

we are going to take a break here at the bottom of the hour. Sebastian Martin is our guest tonight. Remote viewing, SSP,

aliens,

consciousness, contact. Where are we going?

Where

are we heading? I'm going to ask Sebastian some really weird pointed questions.

Because

if anybody may know the answers to this, and some of the stuff that I have been talking with guys behind the scenes about lately,

I

want to know from him. Sebastian Martin,

great

friend of Spaced Out Radio.

We

return on the Mighty S.O.R. right after this.

We're

clear.

Okay. But

we are still live.

We're

still live on YouTube, yes.

Okay.

So,

oh, dude,

I've

got so many cool questions to ask you.

I'm looking forward to it. You know how I work. I can almost like channel directly from the questions that you may have for me, knowing the answer and not knowing the topics that you have. So I always find that very interesting.

Oh.

Well,

put it this way, Sebastian. I'm not going to say whom. But

a couple

of months ago, I got invited into a very exclusive chat group.

And

some of the things that

I

have seen in there,

it

blows my mind what some of these. And I'm being vague right now because I want to ask you on the air. But, you know,

I

just really,

oh,

God, I'm so interested in asking you this, man. So interested in asking you some of this.

Keep

it for the live show.

I'm

just going to be, how many minutes do we have for the break? We've got about four minutes, dude.

Okay.

I'm just going

to

be having a quick.

No,

you can't wait. I can do it at 10. It's okay. All right.

You

all ready for Christmas?

Yeah, I am. I've prepared my presents this year for the first time, like way ahead of time. So I feel pretty excited about it. My kids are excited about it.

So,

yeah. How about you? Almost.

It's

just

the wrapping now.

Do

you have a tree?

Yeah.

You know what? This is the first time in probably 20-some years I went with a fake tree this year. Okay. The real trees, I'll be honest with you, I got tired of cutting them down.

Not

that I was having any guilt or anything, but honestly, we have one tree farm here in town, and it's like the guy just doesn't give a care. Wow. And all the trees were like ugly.

So I'm

like, that's it. I'm going back to a fake one. Now, I don't like a fake one. I prefer the real one.

Yeah.

And, but,

that's

just where I am, man.

That's

okay. Well, I went to pick up, like, for the last couple of years, I've been cutting my own trees on my property. And this year, I've been out to a farm, and, you

know,

I made it to an event for my kids. So they enjoyed that. And it was a nice dog on site with a trolley, and he was grabbing the tree on the trolley. And it was,

it

was interesting.

So

that

was a

good chance.

So, I mean, we, I mean, over the weekend, we had like a foot of snowfall. Wow. And,

James

Smith, how are you? And so I spent my weekend snowblowing.

Yeah. But

that's all right. I got a nice, I go in, hi, Larry A. How are you, buddy? I, my favorite thing to do with my snowblower, man, is, because I got two elderly dogs,

and

they both love the snow. But in my backyard, I cut trails throughout my backyard for the dogs to run around to make it easier for them. And so every year, I try and change up the trail system. But,

yeah,

they're loving it. They're loving it. So, but it's supposed to get real cold down to almost minus 30 this weekend.

Ooh.

So that's going to really suck.

Yeah. Hold

on. Convert

Fahrenheit

to Celsius. So

for

our American friends,

that

equals out to about minus 22 Fahrenheit

this

weekend.

Yeah. And,

uh, yeah, that's where you go outside and it's instant icicles on your nose hair.

Yeah.

Hmm. You

know, we live in BC, but we have swimming different climates.

Yeah,

right. Uh, we got about one minute here, buddy. One

minute. Sounds

good.

So, uh,

I, I look forward to it.

You

know, the only thing that sucks is I have a Christmas day tradition where we usually will go out on the lake

around

here and go, go play some hockey, uh, my son and I, but I mean, if it's that cold,

I'm

not doing that. No way,

man. It's not

enjoyable.

Yeah. No, it hurts. You only got about like 20 minutes that you can take. Uh, one second here, my friend. Uh, I want to say a big thank you to, to John, Guilherme, Linda, Reek and Havoc, Dry Toast, Anthony, and Arden Paranormal for the amazing super chats. It's a wonderful way to support what we do on this show on a nightly basis. So thank you so much for your love and support. Thank you to everybody who has bought swag recently from our store. It's spacedoutradio.com. Be sure to send me those pictures. I want to put them up on the website. All the veterans who are listening in much love. You always have a safe home here in our chat room.

And, uh, we're going to get going with the second half hour right now.

Hi,

Tammy. Second half hour of spacedoutradio is now underway. My name is Dave Scott. Thank you so much for taking the time to join us. We really do appreciate it.

I

want to remind you that if you've missed portions of this show or others, check out our free archives by going to youtube.com forward slash spacedoutradio. Do me the favor. Hit that subscribe button. Our website is spacedoutradio.com. We have a plethora of features for you. Rock out to Bumblefoot. Read Shirky Pooh's Newswire. Check out our swag as well. Follow us on Twitter at spacedoutradio. Instagram at spacedoutradioshow. And on TikTok at spacedoutradio. We continue on with Sebastian Martin. He's a 10-year experiencer. He is someone who has delved deeply into remote viewing, alien content, consciousness, the secret space program. He's done it all in this field.

Quietly, he may not be the biggest name out there. But when it comes to knowledge,

this

is one of the people we listen to on this show. Sebastian, welcome back.

Thank

you, Dave.

My

friend,

I

got to ask you some questions. And they're going to be, they may sound weird,

but

I'm going to ask you.

All

right? Okay. Now,

I

got to be careful here because there are certain things I can't quote where I got the, this information from because a few months ago I was added into a very private chat group

that

has a lot of influential people who are studying this phenomena. And I'm not talking, you know, your day-to-day Facebook researchers. I'm talking major, major players. And so a lot of what is said in that,

it

goes by fight club rules. But there's a couple of things I can ask you

regarding

this.

And

I'm going to start off with this one. Immortals.

One

thing that I learned from this group

was

that there are a number of people

who

believe that

there

are immortals walking around this planet as we speak.

Now,

they may not be people who we'd suspect like the Rockefellers or, you know, Putin or people along those lines. But they do believe that there are immortal beings here

and

now. Have you ever looked into this subject?

Yes. I

know the subject.

I

actually know of very serious people in Europe

who

actually are part of

some

secret societies, namely Freemasons, but some branches of the Freemasons that are gearing up towards becoming immortals. And they are already doing it. And they have ways of doing it.

Now,

we talked about, you know, adenochrome and trying to

be

like older, which is very dark and, you

know,

almost like satanic, demonic, if you wish. But

these

people don't believe that they are doing something that's demonic or, you know, negative. It's

just

a way for them to feel comfortable with the idea of it. But those people are your average, you know, bankers and working in politics, like in England, for example. That's, yeah, that's, I know, let's say friends of friends who are immortals in Europe.

How

long have they been alive?

Well,

so those who I'm interacting with, I would say the immortals today, like the ones they've interacted with,

just

started it. So, I don't know if there are older people out there, but those who they know have already,

let's

say, reduced their age by 20 years.

Let's

put it that way. So, let's say if they were looking like 60 years old, they would be more like 40 today.

Really? See,

I also read a story recently, and Russell Brand, the comedian, who's very conspiratorial, actually, a few weeks ago, did a video on a number of high-end companies, which included Amazon's Jeff Bezos, looking into extending life, much like it seems biblically, where we see people living for 200, 300-plus years that we read about in the Bible. Is this what you're talking about, immortal, or are you talking true immortal beings like the Highlander, which you've

got

to chop off someone's head before they die?

Pretty

much the second part, yeah.

Yeah,

that's pretty much what happens. Like, it's not metaphorical. It's definitely realistic. They are doing something to their bodies and their consciousness to change the way they look. So, they are basically modifying their cells consciously using different methods.

At

what price? I don't know. That's something that I'm not very familiar with. But what we should be paying attention to today is what's currently happening with the virtual reality with Facebook.

And

what we are seeing is how easily it will be for people to transfer their consciousness into something else, even in the virtual world.

So,

like, when you die, you potentially have the

potential

of uploading your brain power and your memory to the multiverse and through the virtual reality system. So, and I think Facebook has banked on that. And to also distract us from our current reality, we're going to be seeing a major

resurgence

of those,

I

would say, the situations where people want to escape their day-to-day to go into this false reality that will become a major part of our future timeline.

Well,

let me ask you this, then.

Is

virtual reality, whether it's through Facebook and Metaverse or whatever they're calling it these days,

is

that the new form of MKUltra?

I guess it helps.

I

don't know if it's the new form of MKUltra, but controlling people through these means and those programs are definitely way more easily accessible to the mass market, for sure. Triggering people, and I mentioned that earlier, triggering people to make them obey some more and to believing that it's okay to go and live off planet, to make it more comfortable to them, these are part of the programs we're talking about here.

Okay.

And so let me ask you this, because Waylon brings up an interesting comment here. I'm trying to extend mine. I could tell you now it's not money that buys it. I have money, and that's not what it takes. You have to be chosen, I was told.

To

be chosen to become an immortal?

Yeah,

or extending life.

Yeah.

I mean, obviously, those people, like I said before, you have to expand your consciousness.

And to

be chosen,

I

don't know. I mean, those people in politics who already have those positions and power have already been chosen to be part of those groups. So it's easier for those people to be selected to be part of those immortals than the random Joe guy who basically work at the garage, the local garage. So you have to be realistic about the situation too. Offering this opportunity to anybody doesn't make any sense.

All

right. So moving on from immortals

to

skinwalkers. Okay.

So

one of the other questions that I have been told is that there are actual skinwalkers

walking

this planet as humans like you and I during the day but can transform and shapeshift into anything and everything that they want. I'm curious what you think.

Well, we already have this example of the skinwalker ranch. So obviously, it doesn't

mean that… This is

outside of that though.

I

know. But I'm just saying like, you know, that's what I was getting at. It's that those beings are not close to this area on the planet. So there are more of these people around the planet too. But to say that they are living within our society, I don't know. I'm not sure about that. I don't know if creatures like that would become… Are you talking about like shapeshifters?

Yes.

I

mean, shapeshifters have, you know, different names.

You

can call them Dracos. You can call them reptilians. Like in different cultures with the Hopi Indians, they already were aware of reptilians being part of their culture. So it's not new. Do you know that we have shapeshifters around us? Like we shapeshift ourselves too because as soon as we reach our higher selves and as we transform,

when

we talk and we are speaking like a higher truth, we can shapeshift. Like we can basically literally look at a younger or we can have a different expression that no longer is aligned with how we look today like now. So I had many of these experiences with people and it doesn't mean that they are, you know, skinwalkers. It's just like it happens. Like people do have visibility. We all do.

Okay.

So let's switch to another question then regarding aliens. There are a number of people who believe that there are aliens already among us. I know you're one of them. Have you ever encountered an alien? Like let's say you're out shopping at the mall. I'm not saying in a forest or at your home or in a dream state or anything like that. But have you ever been to the mall or a restaurant or traveling in your travels? You know, I know you were going to New York there for quite a while for business, you know, going to downtown New York or that might not be a good example. But have you ever walked into an extraterrestrial presence that was

all

the time? Yeah.

Explain

this. I recognize them. So for me, like to see someone and seeing them shapeshift in front of my eyes, like I've seen that many times. And I know it's not just a feeling. It's also physical. I can see right through their mask.

I

can see how they look like. And sometimes it could be like half a face. It could be just like the eyes. It could be the skin tones. It depends on how. And also there's also a look. And the look is very specific to the race, too. Like I've seen that a lot, especially with the Dracos.

But, you

know, I've seen Pleiadians. I've seen lots of different beings that are already. So let me backtrack. So when you see people shapeshift in this reality, it doesn't mean that they are Draco or they're Pleiadians. What I'm saying is they are linked to

like

their higher self. Let's say I know where I come from with my experiences. I know I'm attached to that soul energy, to that being. And I'm just an extension of that being on the planet, like an avatar, having this experience. Those people that I'm seeing are kind of the same. Like I know that they could be connected to like a Draco or Pleiadian or whatever it is, because I can see that and I can see the connection.

But

there are also some true Draco or Pleiadian beings and aliens who are here among us who can shapeshift. And they are not humans. They are definitely not humans. And they know who they are.

So,

yes, it does happen, too.

It

takes two, I guess.

Okay.

So how can you recognize

an

alien?

Like

if I'm walking with you, what are you going to tell me about a person?

So

there

was an example right next door to my farm at my neighbor's place. And we were together at my place. And all of a sudden she had her phone showing the camera because there was activity in a barn with the horses. And so we looked at the camera live and there was this woman that we suspected that I told her it was reptilian. And and then she had the confirmation of that by looking at the video while this person was not looked at and seen.

And

you could clearly see the ridge on top of the skull

that

showed up on the camera, like on the live feed.

Like

you could see her face completely change. And that to me was a very clear example on of how I recognize people, because I was already describing that being to my friend, my neighbor. And all of a sudden that that being showed up on the camera and she was able to witness it for herself. And that led to a very interesting unrolling of events where this person had to vacate the property and

it

kind of happened with different attacks. So there were a few attacks or psychic attacks happening that same week with those people involved, including me as well. And we all witnessed that happening because they were seen for who they were. And those people had to leave. And that's pretty much what happened that day.

Now,

are you talking alien hybrids or are you talking aliens like in the movie V, that they are actual aliens hiding under a false human flesh?

Yes. I don't know about the false human flesh with like, you know, a mask. But I think the advanced cities, as we know, can simply just change reality to make them themselves appear differently. Even if behind this reality, you know that they are truly aliens. And that's what I recognize because of my experiences through various realities and dimensions. So if you access the multidimensional realm, it's very clear to you what is right and what's wrong. I've done this, you know, this exercise with close friends and people I know, and it's always the same. And the results is always the same. Like, I don't lie.

I

have no reason to lie about what I'm seeing about people because I can see right through them. And sometimes it could be like a soul connection or it could be a physical connection. I can just relate to them because I know who they are. It's just annoying. And it happened, you know, over and over again.

Okay.

Do these people know that they're aliens?

Those who basically have, like, a false mask and they are basically hiding their faces, like, through this dimension, yes, they definitely know who they are. Those who have this connection, like I said before, those connections with those races,

because

they are simply like a soul extension to these races, those ones are not necessarily aware of who they are, but they have an inkling. They somehow, you know, feel the profile based on what they do and the kind of dreams they have and the people they interact with and all these kind of things. And then as time goes by, they become more aware of their own truth and who they are and that kind of connection. All

right.

There are some who don't know.

All

right. Let's move on here

as

we continue on with Sebastian Martin tonight on Spaced Out Radio. Next hour, we're going to get into remote viewing and what it ties into what's going on in the planet today. But for right now, this is just so intriguing. So, so intriguing, Sebastian. All right. Aliens, extraterrestrials, off-worlders, whatever you want to call them. Okay. Where are they coming from?

And

the reason why I ask this is there is a great debate out there, and we've heard it from people like Luis Elizondo, Chris Mellon, many scientists that they don't know.

They don't know

where these

craft

are coming from. Is it outer space? Is it from the future? Is it from a different timeline? A different dimension? Is it a combination of everything, which I think is the easy answer to everything? Because, you know,

everybody

wants an easy answer.

What's

happening here? Where are all these beings coming from?

Well,

so there are beings and there are crafts. And some of the crafts that we've seen, like, you know, through the Pentagon files and so on, I do believe that those crafts were not aliens, that they were from secret programs that were on Earth. That those technologies were using alien technologies that have been around for, you know, decades. But I do not believe that those crafts were manned. I don't think there was anybody on board. The majority of the multidimensional crafts that we've seen online and so on, like, we've seen some of these beings on board. And that can go from greys to Pleiadians to Syrians to you name it.

But the majority of the crafts that we see today are not manned, like, especially the smaller ones,

because

they are probes that are sent to Earth to monitor us and to check back on many things. But sometimes it could just be used as a portal that even through the oceans, the crafts can be seen going plunging right into the oceans, into the waves and don't make any splash. They go right through it without making any ripple. And that's because they're using our Earth as a portal to go from one location to another into space. And there are many of these locations on the planet. As to know where the aliens come from, that's a very broad question in terms of how vast the universe is.

And knowing that those beings could be coming from our future, our distant future, the Pleiadians that we know could not exist today because the Pleiades star systems cannot harbor life as we know it today. But it will in the next, you know, 70 to 100,000 years. So and based on my experience, I can relate to that because I know that the experiences I had were not from the past. You know, it was not from the present. It's not linear. You know, it could happen at any given moment.

So

whatever reality we've created for ourselves on this planet is the reality we're experiencing. But that could change all the time

because

every time we meditate, every time we we can change on reality as we know that we can manifest change onto this planet. So if we make it happen with the masses, reality to more could be very different from what it was yesterday,

as

simple as that, very different. If we just put an effort to believe that this reality can change and the aliens are not so different from us in that sense, like they understand that they know how to manipulate time and space. So for them, it's easy to travel through portals and wormholes and to come to Earth as an example, you know, along with many other planets in the universe. So it's it's infinite. The amount of alien races out there. I can't even put a number to it. It's so vast. I do believe that the universe is streaming with life. And the amount of races that we've we've documented on the planet is just a fraction of what's out there.

And

there are some that we can't even put a name or even picture because they are so multidimensional that they don't even have. They don't look like bipeds in like humanoids like we are.

They

could be looking like race. It could just be energy.

It

could be something that doesn't even look human. It could just be like a centipede, something that could be very small. It doesn't have to be huge or our size to be alien. And that could also have intelligence.

Right.

So it's just limitless to me as to to know what's out there.

And I agree with you on that. I think that the universe is is is rife with with all sorts of life and and and

societies

or whatever you want to call that. All right. The question is, how do we know what's getting here

and

what is going on? We got about a minute here, my friend.

I

don't know if I don't know if we know what's getting here because. We're always surprised that I've seen things like with my own eyes that I I didn't even know that existed, you know, in the past. I can't even put

I

can't even put my rational mind to it. You know, seeing seeing a being with black eyes, white face, no mouth, no ears with excreted hands and no feet. You know, I don't know what that is, but it was very real to me and it was right in front of my eyes.

So I'm

not quite sure if we can put a name to every race that came to to Earth

because

we simply don't know. We can only relate to the ones we witnessed and documented and that's it.

Well,

you know what? One of the questions I forgot to ask you this half hour and I will in the next

is

time travel

because

I do believe time travel is going on. I want to believe it. I need to believe it, whether it is or not. I have no idea, but I got to hit you up on this. Thank you for the reminder to bind diamond in the chat room. Sebastian Martin is our guest tonight.

Coming

up, we're going to get into some time travel,

remote

viewing aliens.

You

named it.

How

does it all tie to what's going on in the world today?

We

will find out here.

We

got another 90 minutes with Sebastian. Faced out radio.

I'm

just going

to

be checking up on my keys and I come back.

You go. My voice got stuck there. Weird.

Weird. Boy,

that's a nice chair.

Look

at that chair he has.

It's

a nice chair.

Isn't

that nice? Hold on. I got to remove that.

I

wonder if that's a chair behind his chair or if that's like an extra headrest right there.

That's

high quality wood for a bookshelf too.

And

I like how all the shelves are off-centered.

That's

cool. Gorgeous. Kim Jelen. How you doing?

Yeah.

We got a close-up of Sebastian Martin's chair. That's how exciting it gets around here

on

the Mighty SOR. Yes, his work table is very nice.

Anybody

else curious what's on that tripod over there? That looks like a music stand.

I

don't know. Gorgeous Donna C. What's happening? Jonathan Bo Horvat.

Let's

see here.

No,

we have not discussed Phil Corso yet. Grand Paul Holland. How are you?

That

could be a telescope.

Let's

get a close-up here.

It

does look like maybe there's two stands there.

Maybe

like a camera,

tripod,

and a music stand.

That

one definitely looks like a music stand.

Or

maybe there are two.

I

don't know.

We're

going to find out.

Scott

Myers. How you doing?

Yeah,

you've been to his house.

Trust

Divine Mercy

from

Quenelle, British Columbia. Height unknown, weight unknown,

Grantavious

Grant Roger.

There

he is. Trust Divine Mercy. Nice to see you. Scotty Myers is in the chat room.

Okay,

we've got to know. What's with the two tripods in the back? Is one a music stand?

Are

you talking about my tripod?

Yeah,

over your left-hand shoulder.

Yeah. Well, those were – I was using those for interviews. So

I

was using my camera equipment and stuff. And so, yeah.

I

haven't done that in quite a while. Michigan

UFO, how are you doing there, buddy?

Nice

to see you. Everybody's curious about your book collection.

I

love your bookshelf.

Grant,

hold on a second. Grant, what the hell are you doing shoveling snow? They have snowblowers, man. TMI, Beelzebrad, good to see you guys.

Thanks

for joining us.

We've

got about one, two, two and a half minutes.

Yeah.

Is

that an owl on the top shelf? No, that's a face.

Yeah, it's Plato.

Oh,

that's Plato. Okay.

And

what's in the urn above one of your children's pictures?

There's

a little urn there.

You

mean like the brown box?

No,

no, no. If you go up three shelves and then to your left or your

right. Yeah. Yeah,

that was a cigar box. Oh, okay.

Steve

Trainmark in Australia. Thank you for letting me know I'm alive tomorrow. I really appreciate that. Thank you. Apparently, according to gorgeous Pam McSee, I'm nosy tonight. Where's the cigar box?

Where's

the humidor?

That's the cigar box right there.

Oh, yeah.

I

don't use that anymore.

You're

not smoking cigars anymore?

Yeah,

I do, but I don't use that box now. I've got like the big, you know. I

want to see

your humidor room. You probably have a humidor room, don't you?

I

do, yes.

Yes, I figured that. Mr. Lurksalot, nice to see you. I want to come over to your house and just see the humidor. Mary Eck, nice to see you.

We've

got just over a minute here. Yes. And so Sebastian has a walk-in humidor.

That

does not surprise me.

The

gorgeous Simply Coco. Please tell us what you're drinking for tonight's show. What is your drink of choice?

My

drinking choice? Right now I'm drinking

water. Yeah,

me too. But she's usually on a sangria or something along those lines. Sometimes wine. James Horn, nice to have you here.

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we've

got to get to time travel.

Sebastian,

you are someone who is in the know. You've remote viewed this. You've talked to some very exclusive people about this subject.

Do

we have the ability to time travel?

Technology-wise, yes. But at the same time,

how

it's done, like let's say in the military, it's most likely done through the consciousness. So you can still be seen

at

different times, but it doesn't mean that you can physically do things. They can't touch objects, but you can influence people. You can almost like remote view while being present. It's almost like by locating. That to me is my experiences with more with time travel. I've experienced it myself with people that are alive today. I also know that you can impact your own past or somehow intervene into what happened in the past to, like, according to some major events. Like, for example, for me,

a

few years ago, I was attacked or I had a psychic attack from a Draco reptilian

that

are remote viewed in Eastern Europe. And a few members of my team that were doing the same work because we're collecting data separately and therefore that information was being catalogued and compartmentalized. So as you provide these informations to your contacts, they can decipher or use these informations for making sure that what is real versus what's not or what may not happen. So

one

day I was actually involved into a remote viewing session where I was trying to see a time traveling equipment that was hidden in a mountain in Eastern Europe. And it was an ancient piece of technology that was there and I was supposed to be describing it. And as I was doing that and I was exactly in that location, there was a white Draco reptilian looking at me straight through my consciousness. Like, he could see me. And I stopped the session. And that same night, I had a psychic attack from that being.

And

then a week later, I went to New York on a business trip and after coming back from a Broadway show, I had a mark on my left leg and it was a clear mark, like a scratch that was fairly deep. And I went to have a shower and then went to bed and that night, I believe I died. It might be strong to say, but that's exactly how it felt like. And it was not a heart attack. My heart was perfectly fine. But you know what it's like when you have a psychic attack and you feel this frequency being targeted at you. And while remote viewing myself, I was able to see within my body that I had nanotechnology within myself and that was fighting me and I could not fight it.

And I gave up after four hours and I basically lost consciousness to the point that I woke up three hours later and I felt like I could just jump and fly off the curb of the street. It was only until recently that I discovered that it was actually, and I felt safe, to be honest, I felt like something changed.

I

don't know why. I didn't feel tired after just three hours of passing out. And I

basically

never understood what happened to me that night. And until recently when I realized that I was working with someone and were able to go back to that time to heal that time, to heal myself.

And

that's the presence I felt the next day, remembering that's the experience I had.

So

I don't know if I'm being too vague here, but what I'm saying is the experience of going back in the past and having an impact on someone's life and in a good way could happen energetically, not physically, if you understand what I mean. So I was able to time travel, like to go back in the past,

to

see a person I know today who is like 10 years older than me. And I was able to see her as an adult, as myself, seeing her when she was six years old or 12 years old

and

interact with her. And she could hear me and I could hear her and I could understand her language, even if I could not speak her language. That to me is way more powerful than the physical time travel that we can use using technology, because I think this is kind of limitless. You can not just like time travel onto this planet, but somewhere else. You can go anywhere you want, basically. And mastering the art of appearing somewhere else is very unique. I was able to do that. I don't know exactly how in the past my friends were able to see me at two different places at once in terms of by location. Is that time travel?

I

don't know. Maybe it is. Maybe it's just a matter of changing reality. So you can bend this dimension to make it look like time travel, but it might not be.

I

don't know. It doesn't mean I understand the specifics of it.

I

don't know how it's done. I don't know the sounds behind it. I just know that it's possible.

Do

you think, though, that we do have people from the future visiting here right now?

Yes,

of course. It's not using the technology that people see through Stargates and these kind of things. The military has tried to do that. And I'm talking about aliens from the future coming back to see us. They are not using our linear time to achieve it. They simply use a multidimensional portal to reach us and see us. If you can put that time travel, I don't know.

I

don't think time is as linear as people think. You know, if you think of time travel, you think that, you know, we live in this reality in the present and we can go back in the past. It doesn't really matter. Like, you can go in the future, too. It's, you know, there was a classic, you know, mention about, you know, what's the concept when you can't kill yourself or your dad and if you kill your dad in the past, you know, you will not exist in the present. That was the major debate.

And I think recently there was a scientist in England, I think, who discovered that this could not happen, this could not be possible, like you could not kill your own father and come back into this reality of this present time

because the

laws of physics would not allow us to achieve that because what he realized is we actually see, even if that's true, let's say you go back

in

the past and you kill your father, when you come back in this present, it will most likely not be the same present because the subtlety of reality are changing all the time. So if you change something from the past, the past that you're accessing may not even be the real past that you've experienced as a human being.

It

could just be like a variation of your past because it's limitless. And something happens for the future, too. We have different timelines. We can access different timelines. And that works for the past, too, because that's the complexity of our universe and our planet. It's not linear. We don't have a simple past and a simple present and a simple future. It changes all the time. And even with our thought process, we can change things. We can modify things.

So

it's just,

to

me, if you wish to just time travel to go from one point to another in time and space,

I

do not believe this truly happened with technology.

Do you

understand what I mean?

I

don't believe that's true.

Because

there's always been variations or changes that made it very complicated and are unreliable.

We've

seen that through the looking glass technology where you could see glimpses of the future through the looking glass technology. And that proved to be unpredictable because what happens in the future may be very different from what truly would happen.

Okay,

so I understand what you're saying on a very ethereal level that any of us could time travel. But do we actually have the machine and the technology available to say, send a person like you or me back to 1985 to see where Doc is making the DeLorean?

Yeah, that could happen. But again, this past would not be the same past as we would have had experienced in this lifetime. It would be a variant timeline. It would not be the same timeline as we would have experienced today. It would just be a different one.

Why

would it be different?

Because

we can't control the past. Like if you try to go to a specific time, you could access it. But it doesn't mean that it would be the same reality

that

you are experiencing on this timeline because it changes all the time.

How

can time in the past change

if

we've already lived it?

Because

it's a different timeline.

It's

not linear.

Or

so we

think.

That's

what quantum physicists talk about. Like, you know, they know of it. It's just not linear. And

that's

it's it is theory. But there are also some physical experiments that have been conducted to show that, you know, you can show two objects at the same time in the room using quantum computers and technology.

To

see that if you can time travel and go back in the specific past,

I

think that may be possible. But you won't be then going back to your current timeline as it is today on this show, being aware of that because things would have changed.

You

would never be able to reconcile.

It's

way too

heavy,

man. You would never be able to reconcile the past with the present in a variance of timelines that we could experience because it's limitless. And everybody could have a different experience as well. So it's really subjective. It's not collective.

Okay.

I think I'm getting it. Okay. I think I understand.

I

think I need to drink way more to understand,

you

know, rather than the water I have in my studio right now.

Well,

we can elaborate

on that if you

wish.

You know, I've got

time.

Well,

I've got some time here, too.

But,

I mean, apparently I can't go back in time because if I go to edit this show, it's not going to be the same as what it was.

Ah.

Well, I mean, you know, we know of the Mandela effects.

Right? Oh,

don't even get me started on the Mandela effect. That's going to throw me right off. That's going to throw me right, right off. Because I actually had a couple of strange occurrences happen a number of months ago.

Okay. And

the most notable one

was

I was about to have author David Weatherly on the show.

It's

going back about four months.

And

I'm scrolling through Instagram.

And

I see his profile for Erie Lights. That's his publication company come up.

Yeah.

And

I see a book.

Which

is

titled

Monsters of the Great Lakes. And David Weatherly along the bottom, like his titles normally are. So, as you know, I always do a pre-phone call.

Before

an interview, we had ours tonight. And I call up David and I said, Dave, I'm real excited about this new book you have out regarding

Monsters

of the Great Lakes. Can't wait to talk about that. Something new.

He

goes, Dave, yeah, that is a great topic.

But

I

have

never written that book.

I

said, what do you mean? I just saw it on your Instagram today.

Or

Facebook, whatever it was.

And

he goes, Dave,

I'm

telling you, man,

I've

never written that book.

And

do you think I could go back and find the post?

No. No. It

was

gone.

Yeah.

So, you know, going back to what you've experienced, you said that you're going

to

be editing the show and looking back. And, you know, reality may change. No. It doesn't quite work that way. What I was referring to is if you try to physically go back to the show and experience it with me again, it would not be the same show and it would not be the same timeline. It would be a different past. With variations, it might be very minute variations, but it would not be the same show. It would not be the same experience. That's what I'm saying.

Okay,

so that would mean that all different timelines and

dimensions

are running at the exact same time.

That's

correct.

Which

would mean

that

there really is no such thing as ghosts

because

a ghost timeline

would

be

running

at the exact same time

as

us.

Well,

they're multidimensional, so they could be in parallel to our reality, but they could merge from one timeline to another because they have the capacity of, you know, appearing and disappearing at will.

That's

why

they

can't

jump to the same

timeline.

So

if you can't travel back to the future, which would mean you can't travel back forward to the same timeline. Can you travel or time travel from, say,

2021

to 2036 or 2182 or 2349?

Sure. The same idea. Like, you know, you could access a timeline that might not be in line with the current timeline you are on today.

You

know, because you are accessing something that is so far ahead that the consciousness of each individual on the planet may change and will change this timeline regardless. So it doesn't matter what you're trying to achieve by moving so far ahead in the future, it will never be the same.

You're

only accessing something that might be remotely, you know, similar to what you think it will be, but it won't be that at all. It's going to be one of many, you know, realities, which is what we discussed from going back to looking glass technology. That's what those people in government realized, is that you can't rely on the future that much because it's ever changing.

So

would that not

mean that there are

different Sebastians

and different Daves and different audience members in different timelines as well? Always. Yeah.

That's

correct. So if we experience then

death in

another timeline,

how

does it affect us?

You have to

look at yourself. You have to look at yourself as energy, not just as a physical entity on this planet.

The

reason being we can transmute this energy and diffuse it because we're all energy and we're all frequency.

We

can have multiple experiences at the same time without realizing it because we are basically very powerful and we are eternal

and

we can access all these different realities at once. It doesn't mean that we're necessarily aware of them because you lose your mind, like you're not able to function if you're aware of every single potential reality that's out there. It's impossible. Your brain could not comprehend it, but it does exist. It does happen.

And

sometimes the bifurcation in timelines is so minute that you don't realize it.

But

it can happen at any given moment during the day. It doesn't have to be. It's ever changing.

My

head hurts.

Eric

with a K wants to know,

what

about the power of now?

Okay, I don't know. What's the power of now?

The

power of now is what we're capable of achieving with what we have. And that's just being conscious and being present. And

that's

the true power. The true power is to be within ourselves and to be able to be conscious of all of these different dimensions and timelines.

And

that's how we can become more psychic. That's how we can become more powerful and more spiritual and more positive, living without fear. That is the power of now by being conscious and by being present.

You

know, living too far ahead causes us to be anxious because we just worry too much about what's going to happen in the future. Looking back in the past might make us more depressed. If we are more present and we are embracing what's currently happening, we don't have those worries because we are living in this reality. We can be more present. We can breathe better. We can just transmute all these bad energies that happen on a daily basis. And we can actually change our environment. And we can change not just ourselves but others and impact others and impact matter.

We can basically transmute all of this negativity that's currently happening today and make our world a better place for it simply by thinking about it.

You're

killing my brain right now. Killing my brain. This is why I need to come to Vancouver Island and spend about a week with you, my friend.

Okay.

Definitely. 90 seconds to go before we go to break here. Sebastian Martin is our guest tonight.

How

long have you been remote viewing?

Five

years.

It's

a small time. Small amount of time.

We're

going to get more into that

in

the break or after the break.

Yeah.

I've been doing remote viewing for that long consciously. But when you think about all the psychic abilities that I had since I was a child, they're probably remote viewed without knowing what it was. I just did it. And, you know, I just couldn't put a name to it.

Well, remote

viewing is an interesting talent because, for me, I don't really see the difference between astral travel and remote viewing. I really don't.

Well, astral travel can bring you to different realms that could be very, very irrealistic with this dimension. It doesn't have to be this world. It could be somewhere else. You could remote view a different planet, but I could also remote view the past. I could also remote view a different location for different people. And

the

remote viewing is much broader. We can discuss that, you know, in the

last part. Well,

we'll come back to that on Spaced Out Radio as we shift gears once again.

We'll

find out on Spaced Out Radio right after this.

All

right, Enzo wants to know, if you travel back in time, nothing you change matters, but how sure are you you'll return to the present you left?

We

already discussed it. We

already discussed it.

That's exactly that. You know, you don't know. And most likely you won't. So, you know, if you time travel back in time, nothing you change matters. That's not true. It does matter because it affects everything around you at the time if you change something. How sure are you that you return to the present you left? You can't be sure because you already transformed something from a different timeline and expecting to have the same reality when you come back to your present time.

It

doesn't happen that way. So, of course, it could be different. And it might also be a different reality that has nothing to do with the time you changed in the past.

If

that was, you know, the theory behind that question.

Killing

my brain today.

I'm

sorry.

You

know, it's just based on what I've experienced and what I know of it. It's fun. It's actually very fun.

Eric with a K. We are his third favorite show. We're number three.

He

is asking,

is

there any verifiable evidence that Sebastian can cite that would prove his beliefs or experiences?

That's

a great question. My experiences are my own in terms of Zoro coming into my living room. I can't duplicate that experience. It's just something that I've lived through

that I

know could have been compared to losing my mind. And I thought of that at the time because I was so rational.

But

at the same time, I also had other experiences that were related to that encounter that made me see more things and led me to places that I would have never expected to go to. Like going to Mount Shasta, for example, was a voice in my head saying, you have to go to Mount Shasta. And

I'd

never heard of Mount Shasta before. I'd never been to that place in California before.

And

yet I've been. So clearly that could be an experience. The people I've met, the people I had UFO experiences with, like Scott Myers is with us tonight. And he's one of the experiences with me. I had many people that I mentioned in my book. Wait a second. Let's just come back with it.

So

when you see that book,

In

a Journey in the Outer Space,

I

do have examples of people that were with me during those experiences and some of them. And those are still very close friends that I have, that I'm still in touch with, that had those very, very strange experiences. Alia Casey, who is actually the author of my forward in my book, was a former U.S. Department of Defense and Department of State staff. So working very closely with the Pentagon, these people are real and they interacted with me and I removed it for them and for many years. So in terms of evidence, I think I do mention a few in that book.

And yeah,

I mean, that's basically what I can share right now. Oh, Sherry. Sherry, yeah, I

said,

I can remove you.

I

proved it to her. That is true. Thanks, Sherry. So, I mean,

we

all have those experiences. Like, you

know,

you had your own. If I ask you to prove it to me, it's harder when you have an experience. You can always be challenged all the time by anybody because at the end of the day, it's not just a belief, but it's also believing in your own limitations. And if you question someone else

based

on their abilities, you have the right to do that. That's rational. But at the same time, it limits you to have those experiences for yourself because you have those doubts. And

it

should not be that way. I think people should have their own experiences for themselves because it's important to live in that moment that we talked about and to have those deep connections.

It

doesn't have to be proven. It's just something that you can leave for yourself and

sit

with your own mind's eye, literally. You know,

you

can think that you can imagine it, but it's not. It's just…

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I'll

let him explain it. Sebastian, before we get too deep into this, for our radio listeners listening in

who

may not know what remote viewing is, maybe give a brief description.

Well,

remote viewing is accessing a different

place

with your mind's eye or your third eye.

You

can literally transport your consciousness in a different location and it can happen instantly. It takes no time whatsoever and no effort to get there. You can remote view the past. You can remote view the present. And you can also remote view the future. In terms of

the

future, like as we discussed, it's way more complex because it's ever-changing. If you want to remote view the planet, that's pretty much something that we never change or barely. So it's more reliable. If you try to remote view an event in the future, it might not be necessarily true because it's like we discussed before. It might, it could be changing all the time, so we can't rely on this timeline. An event in the past kind of works the same way. So relying on remote viewing for present events in different locations is way more reliable because it's live. And

the

way I remote view myself, it kind of changes, but I usually see an event as a, as a, as a first person. So I could see my hands and I don't see my eyes on my face. I could just see an event. I could be transported

to

a location and sometimes I could see an event through the eyes of someone else. So I could be in the body of someone else and, and having that clear vision of seeing this event. And that happened many times over with Alia, the person that, you know, is in my book. She mentioned that too. And I, I kind of related to those events because I was able to smell the cigars in the room and I was able to, you know, feel the air blowing on my face.

I

could feel everything.

And

I could also see what was in people's minds. Like I was able to read their thoughts as this was happening. So it doesn't happen all the time, but what I've noticed doing remote viewing on one individual in particular, like say I'm, I'm asked to remove you a person. And then what I can provide in terms of critical information is the connections that those people have that may lead to more people to check. Let's be that way or to very, to, to,

to

keep an eye on. That's the, one of the aspects of remote viewing. I have seen events that could potentially happen. So timelines that never occurred because they were prevented. So it's by warning that this could happen if you do this. The reason why those events were

confirmed

to be true is because I was seeing

like

a detachment, for example, to do with a battalion going into a field. I was able to see the landscape clearly, and I was able to see what was behind the landscape that say there were some enemies placed on a mountain top behind that line of vision of those allies. I was able to determine what kind of military equipment that they had on that ridge. So while the events did not occur, that prevented them from potentially lead this group to, you know, men's executions, basically, or hardship. And just by providing that piece of evidence was able to prevent an event that never occurred. So, uh, that's how you can use remote viewing for,

uh,

uh, prevented the kidnap of people, uh, people, you know, just being wary of the people they were souring themselves, souring themselves with, um, yeah, uh, preventing, uh, you know, assassinations and these kinds of things. Uh,

that's what you

can do to, to use remote viewing. Okay.

We

know that through the United States government, they have been trying to remote view objects since the sixties,

going

back to where there was a big remote view battle allegedly between the U S government and military and the Kremlin

and

the USSR back in the, in those days.

Uh,

and, you know, apparently this had some very interesting results to where remote viewers were allegedly able to see right into the hidden books, uh, of what was written down in, uh, the Kremlin by the KGB.

Uh, and

today we learned that this was a very real program, uh, uh, we know that people like John Alexander were involved with that, how put off we're involved with that. We're learning that potentially, we're

learning that potentially, or

allegedly Luis Elizondo was quite the remote viewer in that program

as

well.

Mm-hmm.

So with,

with that being used on a, on a military level,

how

does that affect what we do as civilians, such as yourself, who want to remote view?

Oh, um,

how does it affect me?

Well,

how does it affect all of us

in

general?

Well, because every, everybody can remote view.

It's

not limited to a few, like it's just a matter of practicing and, and doing the work.

Um,

and you have different methods to accept, to access it. Like obviously using, uh, binaural frequencies, uh, through like the Monroe Institute, for example, uh, they, they worked on that technique to remote view. And that was the basis of this target program, but, uh, you can, you can use various methods. And I, I was meditating since the age of eight years old, uh, using transcendental meditation. And my first remote viewing experience was, was when I was truly 16 years old. And, um, I was doing that to impress a girl, like to actually see objects on a nightstand, you know, uh, you know, in a dorm.

And, uh, I was able to, to see the three objects that she placed, uh, to trick me when the original method was just one object. Uh, and that was again, one method that I've used to access or do remote viewing. I didn't know what it was at the time. Um, I panicked because it felt, um, very strange to me. I was able to, uh, travel through like a black channel or tunnel and then being hovering over that nightstand. And then as soon as I saw it and I was not even looking around cause I was just so focused on those objects and I came back into my body and it was a shock. Like I was literally, um, out of breath. I was sweating. Um, and I was completely frozen in my bed. I couldn't move.

Uh,

and that scared me. And I vowed that I would never do that again. And, and I didn't not that same way. And it's by opening myself up to, um, well, hypnosis actually at,

at

first

doing,

uh, hypnosis. And after my encounter with Zoh in my living room, I was able to access my subconscious mind and somehow something clicked. And I don't think it had anything to do with hypnosis, but that was the process I went through to, um, open myself up, open myself up to remote viewing. Because the first sighting I had, um, was about a potential agent in the field that was about to be, um, discovered. And I warned that person knowing who that person was at the time,

never

met that person before in my life, but somehow I knew who that person was. And I wasn't able to warn a person of, um, that, um, potential discovery. And that person was able to leave that safe house on time and leave the country.

That's

how it all started for me. And what was interesting is I had

better

chances or successes with certain people for remote viewing. So in my case, um, working with Aya, for example, was, uh, a mind blowing experience because she tested me a great deal in terms of remote viewing experiences. And I was able to go back to past events to witness things that the media never talked about. And that's how she was able to confirm some of my remote viewing experiences, which I was discovering at the time, uh, in a full blown manner. And that became, um, a routine, uh, for me. Like I was, I was doing it so randomly that, um, I could be cooking my breakfast in the morning and have a remote viewing session. Uh, it was that easy, uh, and at any given time.

And sometimes I was even, I wasn't even thinking about it. It was, it was just happening. I was able to connect directly to some events, um, working with Aya. That was one of the things I did.

All

right. We got a couple of questions from our audience here for you. And let's start off with Larry here. What are some things a person can do to be able to remote view?

Well, uh,

the first one is to meditate because through meditation, you can access your subconscious mind and you will be able to, um, see things. Uh, and that's how you can literally start the remote viewing experience is to be open to, uh,

to

those changes and, and to be able to feel them. So

I

have to say that remote viewing is to me is a very mental, uh, aspect. It's not something that I feel. And most good remote viewers will tell you the same thing in order to be a good remote viewer. You don't have to feel anything because the emotions are masking the, the true experience of remote viewing,

but,

uh, you can access remote viewing in a different way through the heart for doing the right things too. So these, there are ways, different ways of doing it. Um, truthfully, um, they all work kind of similarly that you can basically achieve the same results. Uh, and that's basically the same thing as being a psychic. You can, um, have a true experience in a psychic

connecting

to someone and have a true vision. Uh, something happens with remote viewing. Uh, but in order to, to achieve that results, you, um, like I said, I mentioned, um,

um,

you know, by normal frequencies, uh, you can listen to some of these tapes. You can even, um, you know, sleep on it, sleep with it. And that would open your, your mind to, um, having more dreams and opening up your pineal glands. So you have more dreams and you are more open to, uh, accessing your third eye that way. That's what I would recommend meditating, um, breathing, like doing breathing techniques. There are so many things that you can do. And if you have that connection and it becomes clearer and clearer every day, then anyone can achieve that, that result.

All

right, let's move on to another question here. Lala is asking, how do you feel physically and mentally after your remote view?

Uh,

it depends on the experience. Um, if I'm, if I'm involved in a, in an experience that is, uh, mentally challenging because of what I see at the time, when I see those events,

it

doesn't touch me because I don't feel them.

Uh,

I'm just witnessing what's happening. And that's how to do, because I've seen things that were pretty horrific and, and yet you just have to keep it objective because you just want to relate the events. And hopefully certain, certain, certain,

certain

things can change. But, um, at the end, you know, this is what led me to, um, quit the program is because it was becoming too challenging for me. Uh, I still do it now casually for fun, but not for, uh, for work. And physically to always feel, felt good. Like it was not a bad feeling, but when I had, um, obviously like a challenging experience after the facts, this could have affected me at the beginning.

It

was affecting me more, uh, physically with, um, having heart palpitations and anxiety arising from those visions or,

uh,

sessions. And as time went by,

um,

I wasn't really physically feeling differently. It was just part of what I was doing. And so

I

was used to it. So I was not really fazed by it.

Max wants to know, how do you validate your experience when it's happening?

Uh,

well, like I said, the, the people I worked with validated those experiences for me because,

um,

I can't validate them for myself. There's no way,

um,

especially when it happens, uh, like, you know, 12,000 kilometers away from here. Like it's, there's no way I can know that whatever I'm seeing is true. So only the people working with me can validate what is true and what's not. And what's interesting is over time, some of the remote viewing sessions I had, um, at the time felt wrong. Not, not to me, but to the people I was working with because it made no sense. And then as time went by, they realized that those events occurred and because it was just delayed. And so that's what I've experienced. And that's how they were able to validate those events for me down the line.

You

are someone who has

been

asked to remote view some major situations. And I'm going to keep those very privately from, uh, personal discussions you and I have had off the record, uh, in the past. But for you, when someone asks you to remote view something,

what

would put you in that situation?

What

do

you

mean?

How

would,

how

would someone approach you and say, I want to, I want you to remote, to remote view subject A in

Turkmenistan

or Britain or,

you

know, Jordan or, or wherever it

may

be. So the way it worked for me is I work well with pictures. So I was given a picture

of

the subject that I was able to remote view that person. And by removing, removing that person, I was able to link that person to, uh, some places,

uh,

and some other people too. So I was able to find out about their, um, everything from their religion to, uh, their belief systems, to, um, uh, the people they interacted with, what they were like as individuals. If they were like, uh, you know, cheaters or sexual or, uh, greedy or whatever it felt like, I was able to, to have all this information at once,

uh,

during remote viewing.

Um,

recently I did, um, a remote viewing session for a friend and, um, to do with her children. And I was able to remote view them and I was able to describe them for her very accurately. And I'd never met them. I just didn't know them. And, um, everything that was able to see was also related to their past. And so I was able to remote view that and see events that happened to her

in

her lifetime. And she remembered those events after I explained to her and describe them to her. And I had no way of knowing. So again, she was able to validate that for me. Um, and I was not seeing a picture of the children. I was able to see her. I knew her and I was able to connect to those people through her. So it's not always the same, but if it's a subject like, you know,

um,

person A or person B, usually it works best with pictures. That's usually how I worked. And I've done that many times over, uh, even in the couch in bed with some friends and that worked well for me. And again, those people were able to validate what I would have experienced.

Lala would like to know, how did you create this into a career? Where would one start?

Hmm. Well, I was not, uh, choosing that career. I just, I was picked to do it. Um, but if you basically join certain groups, like for example, if you, um, I don't know if I should say that, uh, um, let's say, uh, you basically go through. Um, like a,

uh,

seminar and you want to learn about remote viewing or even, um, binaural frequencies, you go to the Monroe Institute and you become a very good subject and you, you have those wonderful experiences.

Um,

it is possible that some of these individuals may be selected.

Um,

let's put

it

that way.

Is

there anything you will not remote view?

Uh, yes, but I won't mention it here today.

Have

you ever turned down a job because you're like,

that

is not something I agree with?

Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes.

It

kind of led me to stopping doing what I was doing because of it.

Can

you remote view extraterrestrials?

Yes.

Of course.

When

you remote view extraterrestrials,

is

the game different

than remotely human? Um,

it's, it's not that the game is different. It's just that you access a different level of consciousness that is not human. So you have a very different level of understanding and it's, um, it's very complex to the extent that some of these, um, realities, may be distorted simply because your human brain cannot comprehend it. So you're only able to see a certain aspect of those. It is. And so you, when you access the consciousness, it becomes very different because they're already accessing a different level of consciousness than yours, from what you are used to on the day to day basis.

So it's, uh, it's so complex that it could lead you to see way more than you bargained for at first, because it kind of, uh, brings you into different kind of rabbit hole that leads you to, um, different realities. Well, at once while dealing with those beings were already multidimensional. So it's very, very challenging, but yes, I've done that many times.

If

you could remote view extraterrestrials, have you been able to figure out

through

that remote viewing what their purpose of coming to this planet is?

Yes.

Uh,

yes. I mean, to some, again, to some extent, because I can't say I've remote viewed everyone. Um, but for what I'm used to is, um, it's the observers and they are just curious to link our consciousness with theirs. So they are learning from, from us and from what we're experiencing. And it's mostly from the emotions that we're going through. That is very foreign to them

because

it's something that almost like becomes archaic as time as we evolve, because we are very primal beings. And we, we have those emotions that are very, um, animal like, but we also have very deep emotions that we can't even comprehend today. Very, very complex emotions that those beings no longer have.

And

I'm saying no longer because I do see them as people coming from the future, not from our past. So they simply go back to this timeline so they can try to understand what they've lost, you know, over time

for

being more evolved beings. Basically that's, that's the reality of it. Um,

you

know, what's interesting is my current expense right now for what's currently happening is that those beings are looking at what's currently happening in the world of COVID. And nothing seems to be wrong to them because this is part of potentially their future timeline too.

This

is like a major turning point in, uh, in people's evolution and consciousness evolution. As, as time goes by, we're going to be seeing those things aligning with what we understand of various aliens that we know of on this planet. That's how this is perfectly normal to them, that they have no, no need for them to involve, to get involved in what is currently happening. That's why there is no intervention.

All

right, we'll talk more remote viewing with Sebastian Martin as we have until the bottom of the hour on Spaced Out Radio. Then we will bring in the fedora wearing John Hudson for the unbiased UFO report. Shurky Pooh's news, thought of the Dave, a jam packed third hour coming up on Spaced Out Radio when we return.

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right, we're clear, buddy.

Okay,

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just going to have a glass of water and I come back.

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some drinks, talk about some woo. No, it's not a conference. No, it's not a big speaking engagement. It's about all of us coming together, hanging on out in the wonderful Sin City

and chilling

out, talking some woo, having some dinner, some drinks, and just spending some fun times with your fellow SOR listeners.

Yes,

April 22nd to 24th. Now, when the official announcement comes down, what I need from all of you who are planning on going

is

to email

our

certain

email

that we're going to give you. And what we're going to do is we're going to make sure that we have some

Spaced

Out Radio swag

in

there for you.

So

we're just working out the details. It's going to be very impromptu. There's no schedule

except

for maybe dinner because

we're

not eating breakfast for dinner in Vegas. I'm just going to clarify that right now. There will be no breakfast for dinner

options. So

tentatively, Friday night,

we're

all going to hang out.