23/11/2025 - Walking Through the Fog of Faith - Serge Papin
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- 1:24PrésentateurFait
« Yet, having a faith of a mustard seed, which is so small, can move. »
- 2:58PrésentateurFait
« He talked about trust. Not when you are in control, but while you are in discomfort. »
- 18:20PrésentateurFait
« What Jesus saw was a man full of faith in one step. And in the very next step. »
- 19:47PrésentateurFait
« Galatians 3.6 So also, Abraham believed God and was written to him as writer. »
- 22:38PrésentateurFait
« Jesus said in verse 23, all things are possible to him that believes. »
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« He asked me for a must-out seen faith. »
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I
hope you can hear me in
the back there. If not, please raise your hand and I'll
raise my voice.
Thank
you so much for
every
one of you this morning. That's really helpful that we're working. It's good to have our very young children in front. And especially that song. But I sincerely hope that at your age, your problem, Hosanna, is not too big.
I
just want to build that. I don't know whether you were present probably a few, a number of weeks ago when our young people took a sermon on faith.
And
on that day,
they explained what faith
is in an ideal world. What faith.
And
I remember very clearly the text that, one of the texts that was used, I think it was Mia, that used that text
to
talk about having
the
faith
of
a mustard seed. Yet, having a faith of a mustard seed, which is so small,
can
move.
You
will remember that. And when I left the church that day,
I
was a bit worried.
Because, in
my life, I have problems in my life. And some of them are still there. And I wonder whether I am a man. If you were here, you would remember our brother Steve
took
his sermons. He titled his sermon, Faith in 3-4. And if you remember, he told a story. And going up, and going to parachute down. 12,000 feet divided by 300-400 meters. Still, let's say, very high up there.
And
he talked about trust.
Not
when you are in control,
but
while you are in discomfort.
I
thought about this when I left the church.
And
when I think about it, I put my feet into his shoes. Had my daughter taken me to the airport for a parachute experience, I would have taken the first bus back home.
But,
sir, this morning, I've entitled my sermon, Walking Through the Fog.
What
I want to talk about this morning is not necessarily the ideal
faith.
I
talk
to you.
It's
about faith that shows up in my life.
Your
experience may not be your experience. And I take that. And I accept that.
Because,
you see, sometimes in the morning when I wake up, I feel very strong. I feel that God is answering my prayer. It's like I'm on a mountain top. And I see it. I can breathe. It's beautiful when you've got faith. When God is answering your questions.
When
God is showing that he's there for you.
But
I also wake up some mornings
when
I pray
and
I feel that my prayer has not passed the route. There are times in the morning when I wake up
and
there's just emptiness.
I
wake up and pray to this God.
And
I say, God,
I
believe in you.
Yet, I
just feel
no
one is listening.
And
those are the times when I wonder whether I have a faith that can move mountains. Or faith which is there.
I'm
not worried about whether there is no ground under my feet.
And
this morning, I want to talk very honestly about what my faith looks like. And if you're one of the stronger ones, you can help me. But if you're like me, come with me on that journey this morning.
I
said that I'm going to talk about the fog. So long ago, it was winter in Canberra. And we know that there was snow on the mountains of Perisher. And
my
niece and nephew who are from Mauritius have never seen snow. Have never experienced snow.
And
so we decided, my wife and myself, that we would bring them, we would take them to the snow.
And
at the same time, my children decided to come with me. And so we had the whole family together going to the snow and experiment, especially for those two from Mauritius, to taste what it's like to have their feet in the snow. Now, I remember driving on a Sunday morning, very early, and the road was clear. And you could just go and just... And as you came closer and closer to those mountains, you could see the white tops there. And that was so exciting. And when it was 18, I was so excited, I was doing 85. When it was 100, I would just push it up with 105, because I was excited to be getting there. Now, I'll tell you, we had a great fun.
The snow was softer, and every step we would take, it would come up to our knees. And so in the morning, it was fantastic. But we knew that about 3 o'clock,
it
would start raining.
So
I said to the family, what about we move out at 2 o'clock, just before the fog comes in, or the rain comes in, there will be mud.
And I
said, let's leave at 2 o'clock. It's one thing to say that you will leave at 2 o'clock, and you've got a rent you running in the age group of 4, 9, no one wants to leave on time.
And
by the time we were
getting ready to go, we would
already see the clouds coming over us. And very soon it started raining. We only just had time to go into the cloud, and off we go. But by the time we started going, it's already started to be done. And it was not only just my idea of leaving at this time, everyone else thought it was the right time to leave. When we came up, it was clean, the road was clear. But the moment we started to go back home, the fog, and if you're a driver of the road and you look back, you've got a whole family at the back, the young ones, you knew you had a responsibility.
And as I
grabbed the steering wheel, I could see that my hands started to be a bit moist. The anxiety I started to be, the responsibility of taking all your grandchildren home, I started to hear.
And
when we left,
it
was completely dark. At 3 o'clock, or 3.30 in the afternoon, it was dark. The fog had come in. You could barely see in front. So I focused, focused very hard. What was I focusing on?
I
could see the light. I couldn't see very far. But I could see the light of the next star in front of me. So I said, I'm going to make sure I stay behind that
light.
And when I looked on the left, the other thing I could see was the line, you know, the white line on the road. I don't know how you call it. I call it a light.
So
the white line on the left, I knew that I couldn't see the road, but I could see that white line on my left to stay on the right.
Then
when I looked on my right, there was another line, another white line.
And
this time I said, I won't go over that because I don't see the incoming traffic. So, three things, guidelines, on the left and on the right, and the light in front. And I said to myself, if I keep within those, despite the fact that I don't see the road,
that
I don't see the road, doesn't mean the road is not there.
The
road is still there, but I can't see it.
But
I focus
on
what? And you see faith. Faith is a bit like that. I'll explain more as I go. And I wish I had the screen that I've shown you how, but that's okay. Stay with me, stay with me.
One
time, I had to go to the emergency room. There was something wrong with me and I had to be in emergency. And
when I
got in there, they pushed me all sort of, you know, what they do,
you
know,
they
put their,
what is it called? Yeah,
the monitors. And while I was in there on the bed, the nurses came and put all of the things on me, and I look at the heart monitor.
And
if you see anything like that, if it's in a straight line like this, nothing's working, you're in trouble. Right? When I look at the waves on the screen, on the heart monitor, it was like,
down,
and then up,
down. So
this constant movement
is
a bit like that. I wish that some said that it was solid, constant, but this morning I'll stay, I'll be very honest.
And
tell you what the faith of a single man
is
like.
A
man who needs help.
And
I say, it's not the story of anyone. Yours could be a strong one, and whatever happens, you're there. But if you're like me, our faith is very much like the waves of your heart. There are days that they are very, very, very strong. And there are times, just like the waves, it goes down.
And
it's strong.
What
you think
is
the opposite of faith. I'll tell you that in my life, faith goes together.
I'll
tell you that in my
everyday
life, when I feel on top of the mountain,
my
God is real.
And
there are times,
at
the very next moment, something happens.
And
I feel so down.
In my
heartbeat,
I
move from a man of faith,
to
a man
so
empty. But the good, I don't know whether I can see the good news or not, but the reality is, it's not, it doesn't just happen for me. It also happens for, it happens in people's life in the Bible.
If
you look at Matthew chapter 4, and if you've got your Bible, we don't have a screen, so if you've got your Bible, you've got your Bible, read with me Matthew 14, verse 29 to 31.
Let
me know if you've got it. Matthew 14, verse 29 to 31. Amen.
And
it's the story of Peter, right? And you will remember that Peter
was
on the boat,
and
he sees Jesus walking on water.
And
let me read,
and
I read, come, and Peter wants to go to Jesus. And Jesus said, come.
Then
Peter got down out of the boat, walked on the water, and came to the door of Jesus. Let me stop there for a moment. Let me just stop there for a moment. And I reread it. Peter got down out of the boat, walked
on
the water.
What
sort of faith
do
you read in that?
Man,
this is
the
real faith. It's true faith. He's walking.
He's
doing something
that
God is doing.
He's
walking on water.
That's
real faith.
On
top of the mountain.
But
continue to read it.
But
when he saw the wind,
he
was afraid.
And
he began. On
top
of the mountain.
And
the next step,
you
are saved. In faith.
And
in my case,
it
lives in my heart.
There
are times, as I said, you know, I feel so good, so great. The next step.
But
I want you to continue. Because the text.
The
text, which is key,
goes
next.
Peter
tried out, Lord, save me.
And
immediately, Jesus reached out to his hand and caught him. What Jesus saw was a man full of faith
in
one step.
And
in the very next step.
But
Jesus didn't disown him. Because
he
lacked more.
The
reality is that,
the
moment you cried out to Jesus,
Jesus
grew up
in him.
Jesus lifted him.
Jesus
took him up from where he was.
The
tension
between
faith and doubt
was
for everyone
to see. In the heart of Peter, at this particular time, there's a tension between
faith and doubt. Let me make it to another text. Galatians 3.6 So we're going to do like,
all
times. Go back to our Bible. Or to our phone. Galatians 3.6
Yes.
Galatians 3.6
So
also, Abraham believed God and was written to him as writer. He believed. Abraham is a believer. And another text
is
called the father of faith.
Abraham
the father of faith.
Yet
he gave the
same
Abraham. Abraham,
that
when the angels, when God talked to him and said, you'll be the father of nations. The father of faith did what?
When
he was told that he would be the father of a great nation. He said, what? Me?
I
am so old. How? And Sarah, his wife, laughed as well.
Again. He
didn't disqualify him
because
the father of faith, laughed, used, God still used, men and women who laughed at promises
to
be
a
great nation. And there's one more text that I would like to share with you that really shows that tension. It's in Mark 9.24. And we'll go very quickly to this one. Matthew 9.24.
Let
me know when you've got it. Matthew 9. And we'll just read it. Oh, no, no, no. What's that? Mark,
Mark, Mark, Mark. Sorry, Mark. Thank
you, Luke.
Mark
9.24.
And
if you've got it, and you will remember that story. That story of a father who was unwell. And he was desperate for God, for Jesus to do something. And Jesus said to him, let me see which verse that is, Jesus said in verse 23, all things are possible to him that believes. And straight away the father of a child cried out and said, I believe,
I
believe,
I believe,
see that duality
again,
I believe,
yet
tension
again between faith and doubt. I
don't know how many of you, a few of us, would remember when we used to try to go from one place to another and we didn't know the place. And at the time, we used to try
to go
from
one place to another and we used to try to go from one place to another and we used to use
those big, strict directories. Remember that? You wouldn't remember.
You
don't do that.
And
I remember, and GPS came in at a certain time. And I always say that, that saved our marriage.
Because
I couldn't work out, when you're looking at the street director in that direction, but at some stage, whatever happens, people change it. And I look next to me, and I look
next to me and my
wife in Ruby, to be able to follow her.
And that
was a challenge.
But
the earlier version of, I don't know whether you remember the earlier version of the GPS, when you are on a freeway and you think it's fine, the moment you go to the city with big,
tall
buildings,
man,
it loses its signal,
it
loses its signal, and what happens, and suddenly you feel that GPS is not working, you look at the wife, whether she's still got the wall, you look at the GPS again, and what does it say?
It's rerouting.
No rerouting. Yeah, rerouting. So it's working, it's recalculating, it's checking. If we like GPS, we go to something, we don't know. Our problems sometimes are so big,
it needs to be
rerouted,
it needs to
be stopped. Our God,
thinking
that it's not there, it's rerouting. Bring us in a new direction. Sometimes our problem is so big that our emotions, sometimes that
we
don't feel like even
staying
in bed, because we are so under that emotional strain.
Because
the answer that we're seeking from our God is not there,
but
what he's doing is rerouting.
See,
every stoppage, our God is doing it with us.
This
will become a bit more evident when we talk about the next one,
the
Father. Doubt says,
I
don't know what's ahead.
When
the GPS has stopped, the doubt says, I don't know what's ahead.
But faith says, yes, I know
who's doing it.
Let
me take you now to the, I would say, the ultimate part, which is in Matthew chapter 27, verse 46. If you've got your Bible again, Matthew this time, Matthew chapter 27,
verse
46. A text that you know very, very well.
If
you've got it, say amen, and I'll start. Matthew chapter 46 reads, You
see,
my friends, every believer
in
our life
will
be asked the question, why? Why? Why me? Why now? Why?
And
you see, Jesus,
on
the cross,
says
those words. My God,
my
God, why have you forsaken me? You see, this is not a polished prayer.
Not
a
Sabbath
morning prayer. I say, this is a two o'clock in the morning
prayer. When
you've
tried
it,
so
much with God,
waiting
for an answer. A two o'clock morning prayer, when your pillar is red, is wet, nothing has worked.
And
this is the type of prayer
that
Jesus,
at
this time, is trained. This is the cross, for me, is the ultimate example
of
the collision, of the tension of faith
in
God.
This
is the son of God,
on
the cross. He knows.
He
knows the reason why he's there. But yet, at this difficult time,
he
felt the loneliness of his father. Because he was in man, too. Loneliness.
He
felt the absence
of
his father. And he cries out, why? Why have you abandoned me?
But
I want to put your attention on
it. At
this
stage, despite the loneliness, can you just, can you
feel the emotion
that
Jesus is going through?
There's
no angel
coming
to support
him. At
this time, the voice of his father
was
silent. And there is, on that cross,
tension
between faith and doubt,
I'm
lonely. If I say it's prayer, my.
He
didn't let his emotions
be
taken down at this stage.
Because
even though he was feeling down, he was feeling terrible, he was feeling lonely,
still,
he claims, my,
my
God. Yes, why?
But
above all, my God.
When
nothing,
when
nothing makes sense, the only relief but to God
is
reminding yourself
that
you're still mine.
Because
you've made me yours.
I
belong to you. So wherever it is, I'm still mine. And instead of pretending that everything is okay,
you
see Jesus like it is raw.
But
the interesting part
of
it
is this
sentence reminded everyone around
of
a particular song.
We will try, we
will try a little test.
I
said to you
amazing
grace.
by
just myself saying
a
first line of what it meant to me.
You
see, Psalm 22, all the Jews knew it.
It was
part of the liturgy.
It
was part of what they did in the sunny dream on a regular basis.
So
when Jesus talked about
my
God, my God, he's also reminding everyone around that this is also part of Psalm 2. I don't have the structure. Unfortunately, I've put the structure up in the stream this morning, but you don't have it. But if you go back to Psalm 22, you read the first two verses of the lament of the Jews. To start with in Psalm 22, it's about feeling abandoned. Feeling
that
you're being discarded. And that's what David wrote thousands of years before. It's the liturgy. It's the sadness. It's the weight of feeling abandoned.
But
as you go in Psalm 22, it says, well, there's a projection going forward
that
soon this will be dissipated.
The
fog that it is now
will
be lifted. Even on the cross, Jesus was... The loneliness
of
what it was like, says, my father, my dad, my God, where are you? Why? But he's also saying, listen, this is just the beginning. It's not
the
end.
He
reminds them
that
there is a progression.
That
what looks like fog eventually fog will.
The
first thing
that
he shows us as well is that when you can't understand, when nothing makes sense, go back to your compass. Go back to your body. Go back to your tips. Go back to the promises that God has given you.
And
I come to the third part. The third part that I... That sometimes I struggle
very
much with. You've heard Jesus
praying,
Jesus asking, where are you?
I
come to the last of what is the answer?
What
is the response?
The
response? One wants... I say to my friend again, my brother and sisters, how many times are we seeing that God answers our prayer yet while we get back. While
people
think
that
there's nothing in silence,
but
during that silence, we feel
nothing
is happening.
The
Father
is
redeeming the world. He's doing his work.
To
the GPS,
there's
no signal,
but
God has been routed
and
nothingness.
Because
silence doesn't mean that God is not present. And I repeat myself, silence does not mean God's act. But God is doing his work. Important work, I'd say. While there's
silence.
Let me illustrate that. Ethan was a seven-year-old boy. And his father had gone on an overseas business trip. And he was alone with his mom. He had to go out and play.
And
Ethan was out and mom was inside. When suddenly the neighbor came rushing him. He said, listen, Ethan is on the floor. down there.
And
they were both were barely breathing. So they took him immediately to the emergency department.
And
while on his way, the ambulance came, and on his way to the hospital,
he
was, his little Ethan was clinging to his mother's
hands. And
he said, don't leave
me. Don't
leave me. Stay with me. Stay with me. And he was
reassured
that his mother's hand was still there. But when they got to the emergency department, all the nurses came in and they put him on a hot monitor as well. Everyone came in. The doctors were quick.
I
mean, there was so much happening that they asked the mom to leave the room and to be on the other room.
But
meanwhile, Ethan wouldn't let go of her hands, her mom's hand,
because
she didn't want to be alone.
His
mother was the one, the link, for the doctors to be able to say
they
had to step to her mom to go next to
her.
When she was there, she could hear the scream of a son saying, don't leave, don't leave.
Yet
she had to leave
to
allow the doctors to say all of his screams.
She
could hear what was happening inside,
the
struggle that his own son was going to
be. All
of his fiber, all of her fiber, she said,
want
to open that door and book it. Yet, yet, yet she knew that she had to be out of that building. To cut the story short, they managed to save him. Her mom stayed afterwards, at this experience of having to leave her son, one of the most difficult times,
of
her life.
Because
she knew that he couldn't understand
why. And
she said something very, very powerful. And she said something like this,
I
never loved him more
than
at that moment. I never loved him more than in that moment.
You
see, sometimes,
the
strongest faith,
not
about shouting victory,
sometimes
the stronger faith
hangs
it. How do I conclude this word?
I
think I want to read
to
be very careful what I'm saying.
As
a simple man,
I
don't wake up every day
feeling
like a spiritual giant. Some days,
I
feel
like
I'm barely holding on.
You
see, Jesus didn't ask me
for
a giant sized faith.
He
asked me for a must-out seen faith.
Why
they must-out seen faith, he asked me.
Because
they must-out seen
his
timing, almost invisible.
But
inside
that
tiny seed
is
explosive attention.
Not
because a seed is powerful. Like me,
or
maybe someone like you, faith often looks like opening our Bible,
but
the words feel distant.
It's
remembering what is true, not necessarily how you feel. Training even when you don't feel like your prayers reach heaven.
When
you can't see God's face,
you
can still see his reflection
in
someone else. Maybe
a
good friend of his, sometimes a church member can be the weak reflection. Choosing hope seems more realistic. Whispering Lord help. You see, God doesn't require perfect faith to do perfect work. He simply asks for the seed and he will provide the glory. What's my invitation for you this morning? And I wish the screen was on now.
Because
what I'm going to say is I want you to keep that. This morning as we walk to the fog of faith, I want you to do a very simple thing. Get better.
Don't
wait
for
the fog to live.
Don't
wait
for
perfect clarity. Don't wait until all your feelings align neatly with your beliefs. Remember the first story and I'll finish with a point about you. Trust the light. Trust the light
in
front of you. You can't see the road? Believe
is
still there despite you not seen it. Above all,
trust
the one who walks with you in the fog.
Because
you know why? The fog will live.
And
when it does,
you
will discover that God was guiding you the entire time. Step
breath because it's in
world.